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[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a parent of one child who is the opposite of feral and never gets hit.

And while yes obviously we should not teach our children that physical abuse is how we keep people in line, this conversation needs to go far beyond the level if disciplinary tactics. What's the whole overall parenting strategy?

I submit that actually having a strategy leads to less abuse, and that those who are the quickest to abuse are also the ones who do not take the time to reflect on themselves, their parenting, life, etc. At least not in a way that could potentially make them feel bad or change their ways.

And I'm not even trying to position myself as a perfect parent above physical intervention. Especially when safety is involved. But you have to leave room for escalation. If everything is met with the same reaction of losing your shit, then no bad behaviors seem any worse than others.

I don't know if modern people are truly any worse at parenting than past generations, or if it's yet another example of humanity's shittiness being exposed by our explosion in communications technology.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

They aren't. Crime is down. Underage drinking and drug use is down. Less underage pregnancy. More people are completing secondary. Anyone who says kids are worse hasn't looked at the numbers.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How's that relate to feral children though ? Which i take as "badly behaved in public" . It could just be shifting baseline syndrome which is what the meme sortof intimates o.e bad behavior today is accepted but back in the day it wasn't.

Not suggesting onw way or the other if children are less well behaved pubicially but your refutation seems a staw clutch ?

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Meh, teenagers are legal children. That's the only hard evidence we have.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's typically how it works. People default to complaining and seeing everything as getting worse all the time.

I wonder if the "feral child" phenomenon has actually increased though (I don't think there would be stats) and if that has something to do with the lower crime rate.

Not that it's good to let your child be a feral nuisance. But if a child has shitty parents maybe that's better for their development than whatever abuse the parents would choose to control it.