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Hasan Piker was set to debate Charlie Kirk. Now he's warning of a "Reichstag fire moment."
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this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2025
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the reason Zionists are there is not because of that. again, this is not a religious project, it's a settler colonial one. all of that is bullshit justifications.
by the way even if it weren't it still wouldn't matter one fucking bit for one to form an opinion on the genocide, or apartheid state, or settler colonialism because the so-called reasoning doesn't fucking matter. i don't understand why you're talking as if in certain nuanced situations maybe genocide would be justified. maybe apartheid would be ok. if only you knew the religious reasons maybe you'd understand that ethnic cleansing is not bad, actually...
the way you talk about this makes me pretty sure you're a crypto zionist trying to downplay criticisms of Israel. well kindly fuck off with all that.
Why did the zionists pick that spot?
I see the ad hominem attacks and labeling already coming out. No, I'm not a crypto zionist. I just know how to have a conversation that's more in depth than whatever slop you're used to haha.
it's not more in depth. literally nothing in the so-called justification is there anything to mitigate the crimes of Israel. its entire existence is categorically wrong and immoral.
None of this has anything to do with the topic of justification. That's something you attached to the discussion. No genocide can ever be justified. I hope we can agree on that? Are you not capable of holding more than one thought at a time?
you said Hasan didn't know the meaning of some magic sparkle wall as a criticism of his stance on the genocide. i said who gives a shit about the fucking wall, the Israel project has never been about the wall, and more importantly it has no bearing on one's opinions on genocide. your criticism is stupid and irrelevant. talking about the material conditions of an issue does not require being versed in its mythology as well. you don't criticize someone who reports on scientific discoveries in space by saying they don't know enough about astrology.
You don't understand what I'm saying.
At all.
No one gives a fuck about the stupid wall, except zionists. But my god, if you claim to be an expert on the middle east and you ramble all day about zionist, holy shit, would it kill you to know something about the region? Holy fuck. Americans seem to revel in ignorance
not an american. Zionists don't give a fuck about the wall, jews do. you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's on me. i should've checked your profile before I engaged at all.
Oh my god. We are not talking about zionists or the wall specifically. We aren't talking about your background
We are highlighting the blatant ignorance of twitch's "top political streamer". Holy batman. How is this so hard to comprehend. Who gives an f about my profile. Have a cogent response man. Rub two brain cells together for more than a second. Jeesus fuck
Loser
No u
Ancestral claims is s lot more used as a justification then religious claims.
Zionists has considered many other places too, see even you don't know all the "basics"
What are those ancestral claims based on?
The multiple jewish kingdoms that was funded there.
Why were they founded there?
Because jews as an ethenic group are indegenous to the land
Really? They don't invoke anything else in particular? Nothing specific to the Jewish diaspora? Can you think of anything....
They invoke ancestry as an argument to their claims which is stupid. Herzl was secular, ben Gurion was secular, Sharon was secular. Although Netanyahu has religious Zionists in coalition he still have extreme non religious people in them and Netanyahu himself is secular . If it was just about the western wall Israel wouldn't occupy the west bank .
Holy fucking batman on a stick. How...??? How is it possible you still don't understand what I'm saying? I'm not interested in litigating zionism or the western wall. Jesus. Help me. I quit. I can't any more. You got me.
You sound like a 5 years old kid who can't control his emotion. I think you really need to seeks help
You are and idiot .You talked about how the western wall was a big excuse for Zionism occupation then i told you how the main justification for the occupation was ancestral claims not the western wall and other religion claim BS then gave you multiple arguments that prove it but you ignore everything i say
No man. It's because you're talking about everything except my main claim. I know why though. Good luck
I replied to all your claims but you are too stupid to even understands what you are writing
Repeat back to me my main claim
That the western wall is the biggest argument for the Zionists to justify the creation the state in Palestine which is not because the western wall is a religious side and the most notorious Zionists and fathers of the terrorist state was secular
Wow, what a fucking baby
Haha you got me man. Good one!