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We all hate google and youtube, but overall as a community we're all simultaneously lukewarm and non-committal about pushing towards using an alternative. I admittedly cling to invidious frontends for dear life.

It seems like whenever somebody asks for an alternative to youtube, they're offered Odysee and Peertube, but inevitably many others chime in about the shortcomings of both of those platforms.

Can we as a community come to a consensus as to which of these platforms should be pushed forward?

I don't even think it needs to be a binary choice. Obviously youtube cannot be immediately replaced for it's archival of educational and tutorial videos, but we can at least push newcomers towards using invidious frontends for those instances.

Maybe Odysee is better for some type of content over Peertube. Let's discuss which platform works best for what and try to be more active about sharing and promoting them not just to viewers but potential creators as well.

If you go to share a youtube link, try to see if that video exists on an alternate platform first and share that link instead. I think that's a good first step towards getting away from youtube in the privacy community.

But youtube alternatives are still very much on the fringe and I'm hoping this post will at least inspire some discussion about changing that.

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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It’s kind of wild to me that the alternatives to YT aren’t… better. I mean, it’s not as if YT is brand new.

The PeerTube iOS app is just a mess. And I’m not sure, but I think the Odysee app hasn’t been updated since the Second World War.

Holy crap, my entire response sounds like a whiny kid. Maybe instead of me complaining, I should throw up a PT instance and do something meaningful.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah but peertube is being developed by just one guy from backend to frontend and they have done great work. It will get better ig but still its very very difficult to make users and creators change platform.

edit: typo

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean I did throw up a PT instance and publish my videos exclusively on it, and I'm getting decent views if the topic is interesting and I promote it on hacker news, I'm getting several thousands of views. But that does not fix the PeerTube mobile app, nor the fact that finding content is practically impossible and the subscribe mechanism constantly randomly stops working, there is no app for my TV (like SmartTube) etc.

I'm all in with PeerTube as a creator, but as a user it's a terrible experience.

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can you make money on peertube like you can on YouTube?

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Not like on YouTube, but differently.

[–] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Do you mind sharing your channel? EDIT: Nvm found it. Added the new hyprland video to my watch list.

And can I ask how you find other interesting channels?

I'm sure you weighed the pros and cons of Peertube vs Odysee. What made you choose peertube?

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh and finding new content is kind of impossible, I wish PeerTube was set up more like Lemmy with communities which you subsribe to instead of channels people need to follow explicitly.

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

SepiaSearch is the best I've found for finding content on peertube.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 4 hours ago

I have it build in into my instance and while it is the best, doesn't mean it is usable.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 8 points 1 day ago

I can't run my own Odysee instance to be independent of third parties which might moderate away my content if they don't like it. My content my rules.

[–] Kroko@feddit.online 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are browser extensions that automatically switch from YouTube to an alternative platform if video is available on both.

Watch on Odysee Firefox LINK

PeerTube Companion
Firefox LINK

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

I’m honestly not sure why PeerTube isn’t bigger than it is, aside from a few things.

I would love to have PT as a nice, open competitor to YouTube, like Mastodon is to X and Bluesky (I know Mastodon is much smaller, but you get my meaning). I’d love to see, say, bands throwing their music videos there.

If nothing else, having people yoink YT content and chuck it onto PT. I know they probably can’t, but still.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Storing and serving 4/8k 60 fps video is extremely expensive. It's not like twitter where you could run it of a phone if you wanted to.

[–] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Fair point. I'm sure many would disagree with me, but for web video anything more than HD is pointless except for very niche content. But even HD streaming at scale is taxing and expensive.

Airlines make the majority of their money from a small percentage of flyers paying business and 1st class. I think there's a world where this principal can be applied to something like peertube hosting in some form.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

That’s true, I didn’t even think about that. Having a mastodon instance can be super cheap. But it’s also not usually storing high quality media.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 6 points 23 hours ago

They may be better than YT was when it was the same age. IIRC, Youtube used to use flashplayer, and most videos were something like 480p.