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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

TBF, if the engravings on the casings are legit, then he's definitely a leftist.

  • "Hey fascist! Catch!" followed by an up arrow symbol, a right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols
  • "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao"
  • "If you read this, you are gay LMAO"

(EDIT 9/12/25 - I am relatively certain that if these bullet casing even exist, then they were planted, because every other piece of evidence about the shooter that exists seems to suggest he was extremely conservative. examples: https://archive.is/e3oVv / https://archive.is/20250912221507/https://www.thedailybeast.com/charlie-kirk-suspects-grandma-says-family-is-all-maga/ )

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-gun-casings-inscriptions/86111606007/

Still not sure wtf they were talking about with "trans ideology"...

All this said, I'm happy to see the left is finally sacking up. I'm actually glad its not just a right-wing nut. Its (supposedly) a socially responsible kid who saw the crap that was happening in his country and found the willpower to do something about it.

All of this said, I don't think he actually did it. I'm relatively sure he's being framed.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The "trans ideology" was "TRN", a marking engraved on the casing by the ammo manufacturer, Turan Ammo.

A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol... ughh.... the wall street journal is a complete shit hole.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, but it's important to note that the misinformation they fell for was from AP, which ALL of the billionaire-owned media quote and consider neutral and professional beyond reproach.

Might as hell burn the whole thing down and start over 😮‍💨

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

wall street journal, as far as i know was the very first to publish it, after, I believe, steven crowder posted it on twitter.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Casings? I thought it was one shot?

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The gun was loaded with more than 1 round

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People of any political leaning should be anti-fascist, to be honest. I think the point is that he was brought up with 'republican values' and taught how to use guns as a child.

People of any political leaning should be anti-fascist

Yup. Fascism is such an extreme-right ideology that you're no longer leaning anywhere, you're blindly stumbling off the hateful edge of sanity and coherence.

republican values

Which is just pure fascism and has been for several years..

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

i get the feeling those republican values, outside of being a hell of a shot, didn't take hold. and congrats to him for that.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

up arrow symbol, a right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols

That's the input code to drop a 500kg bomb in Helldivers 2

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

o no.... now video games are going to get blamed too....

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The daily mail are saying the 3 down arrows could be a reference to the Iron Front lol

[–] ratel@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The inscription on one recovered fired casing said "Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?"

...really?!

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean.. that's fucking hilarious.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly it was actually just a manufacturer's mark (TRN) that they mistook for trans messaging.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago

i find it a bit crazy that a cop would be unfimiliar with ammunition branding. unless they jsut wanted to spread some shit.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fucking furries doing political assassinations, this is why we were supposed to stop mocking them. That and that it's in bad taste and we'd like the internet to stay up.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If everything presented is reasonably true yeah this is someone similar to the guy who missed Trump. The right wing primed him for violence and trained him with firearms and probably taught him that guns are how we protect against tyranny. Then he started moving left and suddenly saw that the right is moving us towards tyranny.

The trump shooter was disillusioned and angry he'd been tricked. I'm curious what this man has to say but it sounds like he may have met some of the people the right is preaching against and decided to kill a hate merchant.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

he seems innocent to me.

[–] greygore@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just a reminder that the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces in Europe in charge of beating the Nazis and other fascists was later the Republican President of the United States, among whose goals was preventing the spread of communism. You don’t need to be leftist to hate fascists.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds like something that MAGA would say if somebody killed a left-wing activist.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago

here's me not giving a fuck.