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Right-wing lawmakers pushed for a tribute to the U.S. conservative influencer who was shot dead.

European Parliament President Roberta Metsola on Thursday rejected a bid by right-wing factions to hold a minute of silence for slain U.S. conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

The initiative was first proposed by Charlie Weimers, an MEP from the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR), as a symbolic measure “to declare that our right to freedom of speech cannot be extinguished,” according to an email chain with dozens of MEPs that was seen by POLITICO.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

... That video is a former KGB guy claiming color revolution theory as a real thing - it's total bullshit, dreamed up to entice the same people that fall for Cultural Marxism today. It sounds really good, doesn't it? But it's all just confirmation bias - you're ignoring everything else that's happening, and the beats he lists off are incredibly common. Oh look:

  • The younger generation is more liberal
  • Your politicians are corrupt
  • The economy is being volatile
  • People won't like changing their mind even when presented with evidence

WOW! But we have recordings of people complaining about the same things carved into megaliths a few thousand years ago, so he's not exactly going to burn out his crystal ball by predicting they might come up again. It's the exact same kind of BS the CIA trots out to explain how it overthrew all those South American governments: they didn't, they just took credit for it and everyone believed them because it sounds so good. If you want more evidence that his theories are bullshit, look around: Did the US fall to a "Global Communist Conspiracy" in the last 40 years...?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Except that everything he saying is actually happening, and it all tracks with Alexandra Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics, which is the Russian playbook, Google it.

It may have sounded like a fantasy when this was recorded, but after all these years of seeing Russia make steady progress on brainwashing half of Erica and controlling the government right to the very top, it all sounds like a perfectly accurate prediction.

The guy even talked about it happening right in front of our faces, and we just let it happen. That's exactly how MAGA rose. They just let themselves be lied to, and they chose to ignore everything else and believe it. And here you are doing exactly what the guy predicted - ignoring the truth.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There are no more opponents of Putin's course and, if there are, they are mentally ill and need to be sent off for clinical examination. Putin is everywhere, Putin is everything, Putin is absolute, and Putin is indispensable

That Aleksandr Dugin?

(I have read it, it's... a textbook. Not derogatorily, it says nothing new because that's not it's goal and it does present it's material in a pretty engaging way, it's just not more than that (and it didn't really claim to be))

Okay but like, how exactly, did MAGA rise? He doesn't specify that either, mind, he just makes the controversial claim that people would talk about the rise of a social movement they oppose. This is, in this case literally, propaganda 101. That you're entrenching yourself so hard against someone presenting a contrary idea is the fundamental way this works. I'm not attacking or rejecting you, I promise, please believe me. I used to be pretty anti-feminist as a teen (thanks reddit), and like the cat says, we all fall for propaganda. There's no shame in that.

What I'm telling you is that this type of video (I think literally these ones with Yuri Bezmenov), where someone in a position of presumed authority claims that there's a vast Global Communist Conspiracy (or the like) that will take down America if it doesn't do things like "teach the next generation True Patriotism", will be used ten years later as an example in Foundations of Geopolitics. You're falling for the exact same propaganda that actually led to the rise of MAGA. It's not "enabling social rise through careful manipulation and Marxist Leninist concepts being unchallenged", it's telling both sides they're right and giving them proof that the other side is clearly being manipulated.

("It's right in front of you" in particular means nothing. You can't hide a huge social movement of the kind needed to destabilize a country, that just... doesn't even make sense. It's just a call to accept your own biases as factual. "It's not a shadowy baseless conspiracy, it's exactly whatever you think it is!")

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The Russia Russia Russia brainworm people are fascinating. They think 15 facebook memes can swing an election. Like, how? Can a fart in a hurricane affect the leaves of a tree in a significant way?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

15 facebook memes can't, but tens of millions working in concert with a mass propaganda establishment designed to churn out thematic nonsense at a rate impossible to refute while spurring the divisions in culture by doing things like subverting (via funding) establishsd american cultural commentators? Yea that probably had an effect. Did it dictate the results? no. But it sowed discord, and placed a heavy thumb on the side of the scales that won.