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The Supreme Court Just Let ICE Detain Americans Based on Race (slate.com)

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On Monday, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use racial profiling in its militarized immigration raids across Los Angeles, halting an injunction that had barred officers from targeting Latinos based on ethnicity. The court did not explain the reason for its shadow docket order, which appeared to split 6–3 along ideological lines. In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned that the decision was “unconscionably irreconcilable with our nation’s constitutional guarantees,” opening the door to violent persecution of Latinos—including American citizens—by “masked agents with guns.” The majority did not respond to this extraordinary charge, perhaps because it is so obviously true.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

What you are suggesting here is not all that dissimilar to what the Democratic establishment has been trying to do all along. I recognize the populist messaging could make a significant difference, but I don't think that is enough to overcome the fundamental flaw in the strategy. I think that any capitulation to Republican framing just sets up a situation where Republicans look like "Coke Classic" and Democrats are the cheap imitation. Republicans will always be willing to go harder on the populist rhetoric than Democrats, and will therefore always appear more willing to overturn the existing power structures, even resorting to violence when necessisary. (The inaccuracy of this perception is another matter.)

Contrast that with Bernie's approach. He never compromises an inch on his messaging. That's why he is viewed across the political spectrum as the most genuine person in politics. There is no hidden agenda, and that does get recognized. All the socialist edges you might shave off to gain appeal in red districts will backfire, because voters will believe (arguably correctly) that the real agenda is being hidden from them. Their distrust of the establishment will translate into distrust of the revolution.

Take immigration for instance. Democrats dropped all messaging around the value of immigration and the character of immigrants in order to appeal to Republican voters. That solidified Republican framing of the issue, and made Democrats look like they were simply offering half-measures compared to the Republican solution. The did the same thing with Trans rights. They threw trans people under the bus for political expediency, and it just solidified prejudices which led to more support for Republicans. Years ago, they did the same for gay rights.

The thing is that right wing framing is utter and complete bullshit and, at some level, I think right wing voters know it. But, when life seems hopeless, people aren't going to let go of a vision of a better world without something else to grab onto. These people are scared out of their wits, and Democrats are trying to tell them to let go of the life preserver, while offering nothing at all to replace it. I don't think they are unreachable at all (not all of them at least) but I do think they are unreachable through pandering.