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On Discourse and Decentralisation

The Community Group for #ActivityPub is drafting an open letter calling for respect and collaboration between the people working on the different protocols in the open social web.

I'm signing the letter, and with it, I have some thoughts regarding discourse, decentralisation and why I think this space matters.

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piefed is cheap to host too, but only a few people host instances.

I just learned about Blacksky which is independent from Bluesky but uses ATProto

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

PieFed is much newer, has many many MANY fewer users, and seems to already have many more instances.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piefed also has different features than Lemmy, which incites people to start instances.

About the number of ATProto PDS and relays, didn't you already got a much larger list in this comment? https://feddit.org/post/18498447/8800070

https://github.com/mary-ext/atproto-scraping

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you actually click those links there's nothing there.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here how I used it:

  • Go to https://deer.social/
  • Click "Create account"
  • When offered the choice to use a server, select one from the list (I used " bsky.aenead.net " for instance)

Fill the form, get you account validated

Then use it to login on deer.social

Here is my account for instance: https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:yhwzvt4bab4o743dhg5rfctw

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's helpful, thank you. This is something I have deliberately looked for and been unable to find, which is disappointing. I'm happy to admit I was wrong.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

No worries, happy to help!

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

It's a bit surprising as it seems you already provided that link recently: https://feddit.org/post/18498447/8800070

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All of these links just lead to blank pages.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Checking this one: blacksky.app

It returns this:

spoiler (click to show)

    )      )        *         )    (           
 ( /(   ( /(      (  `     ( /(    )\ )        
 )\())  )\())     )\))(    )\())  (()/(   (    
((_)\  ((_)\     ((_)()\  ((_)\    /(_))  )\   
 _((_)   ((_)    (_()((_)   ((_)  (_))   ((_)  
| \| |  / _ \    |  \/  |  / _ \  | _ \  | __| 
| .` | | (_) |   | |\/| | | (_) | |   /  | _|  
|_|\_|  \___/    |_|  |_|  \___/  |_|_\  |___| 
                                               
 (         )            (                     (                    )                  )        
 )\ )   ( /(            )\ )    *   )         )\ )      *   )   ( /(       *   )   ( /(        
(()/(   )\())  (   (   (()/(  ` )  /(   (    (()/(    ` )  /(   )\())    ` )  /(   )\())  (    
 /(_)) ((_)\   )\  )\   /(_))  ( )(_))  )\    /(_))    ( )(_)) ((_)\      ( )(_)) ((_)\   )\   
(_))    _((_) ((_)((_) (_))   (_(_())  ((_)  (_))     (_(_())    ((_)    (_(_())   _((_) ((_)  
|_ _|  | \| | \ \ / /  |_ _|  |_   _|  | __| / __|    |_   _|   / _ \    |_   _|  | || | | __| 
 | |   | .` |  \ V /    | |     | |    | _|  \__ \      | |    | (_) |     | |    | __ | | _|  
|___|  |_|\_|   \_/    |___|    |_|    |___| |___/      |_|     \___/      |_|    |_||_| |___| 
                                                                                               
            )       )        )      )                    
   (     ( /(    ( /(     ( /(   ( /(             *   )  
   )\    )\())   )\())    )\())  )\())      (   ` )  /(  
 (((_)  ((_)\   ((_)\   |((_)\  ((_)\       )\   ( )(_)) 
 )\___    ((_)    ((_)  |_ ((_)   ((_)   _ ((_) (_(_())  
((/ __|  / _ \   / _ \  | |/ /   / _ \  | | | | |_   _|  
 | (__  | (_) | | (_) |   ' <   | (_) | | |_| |   | |    
  \___|  \___/   \___/   _|\_\   \___/   \___/    |_|   

This is an AT Protocol Personal Data Server (aka, an atproto PDS) operated by Blacksky Algorithms

Most API routes are under /xrpc/

      Code: https://github.com/blacksky-algorithms
   Support: https://opencollective.com/blacksky
  Protocol: https://atproto.com/

which isn't blank, and describes what it is.

That specific repo indexes PDSes only.
If you're looking for something closer to a full instance (like on activitypub) wafrn may interest you, it's a bit more niche though.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

which isn't blank, and describes what it is.

But nothing about what to do with it. What is a prospective user supposed to do with this?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Go to their preferred appview (like bsky.app, blacksky.community or zeppelin.social) and make an account there.