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All the ingredients are there and it won't take much to put it all together.

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[–] nomecks@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What makes you think the armed forces won't split in a civil war?

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Chain of command.

The military is very good about making sure that the people that participate in it adhere to the rules they are given.

People that step out of line will be dealt with abruptly and brutally. I'm not saying there won't be dissension in the ranks, but I am saying that the number of military people that will split with their command structure is going to be minuscule and easily dealt with.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. That's all well and good when it's a common enemy, but when you're ordered to attack your family and friends who live in NY, that's a different ball game.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The military allows you to disobey orders that you find unconscionable.

That's part of our whole don't commit war crimes thing

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But you do realize they're going to shoot you. If they're actually ordering illegal things they're going to shoot people who don't obey the orders too. That's a hard decision for a teenager to make.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

No it doesn't. It requires you to disobey orders that are unlawful.

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You just need a couple of generals to say "no my orders are legitimate, theirs aren't, mine come for the real president!" and you have a problem. And all that takes it a little bit of blackmail and bribery or a couple of high ranking useful idiots or psychopathic grifters

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Theoretically yes. But if you want to know the climate of senior officers you need look no further than the Joint Chiefs actually yelling at Trump in his office and disseminating memos on exactly what the military oath says. (Loyalty to the Constitution)

They aren't likely to turn anytime soon.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

I don't know much about such things but I wonder whether it's possible in any meaningful way.

If there's a split they don't just divvy up the toys and have at it.

One side might have a few things on wheels and tracks, but can they call in an air strike? Will they even have GPS?