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And yet church is a collectivist society. Even says so in the Gospels and when done properly, churches take care of each other in their societies.
Yes, but not one run by the government. It is the form of collectivism that rural people see and most conspicuously use, and hence why they don't see the need for governments
A very generous reading. I think they couldn't care less if government is needed, unless it helps them, in which it's certainly desperately needed. Paying for a minority to get a benefit is their worse enemy though. It's all about selfishness.
In which case, when it comes to big-city federal tax dollars paying for pork-barrel infrastructure (dams, highways, etc.) and health facilities, and disaster-relief in their little communities, most of those dollars come from city workers. THEY're not the ones paying for minorities to get a benefit ... it's the minorities!
Without Blue states, Red states would be stuck with the taxes their people are willing to pay.
Well it shouldn't be surprising that someone who lives far away from everyone else doesn't care much for other people.
Why would that be? You say that like everyone actively chooses where they'll be born.
Barring extreme poverty limiting your freedom of movement, I would assume people who wanted to leave rural areas to live in a city would do so. It happens quite frequently.
People in rural areas are usually poor. I would know, I left one to escape poverty. But I'm lucky I could. Almost everyone else in my family stayed for a variety of reasons and none of it is as simple as "they don't like people".
Well yes I agree "given the choice" should be the caveat here.
Yeah. It took me a long time to leave honestly. It's scary to leave all your friends and family. I ultimately had an early mid life crisis and made me say fuck it and do it, but I get people choosing not to (even if it's a choice, it sometimes feels like it's not).
I both hate the idea of moving back but also think I will some day. I kind of miss my family even though they're extremely difficult to deal with a lot of the time. And I can't leave my parents out to dry when they get old, regardless of all the trauma they caused me.
I understand. It's not something that's easily done even just on an emotional level. I also feel increasingly guilty not being near my parents as they get older.
in other words, anarchism
Moving from the government to the church is really just moving from one giant organization to the other in a lot of ways. But yes, it's outside of government so I guess you could say it counts.