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Three more supreme court justices to cast their votes in coming days, with verdict expected by Thursday

Jair Bolsonaro led a criminal organisation that sought to plunge Brazil back into dictatorship with a murderous power grab involving special forces assassins and a vast disinformation campaign, the supreme court judge presiding over the former president’s trial has claimed as he voted for Bolsonaro’s conviction.

Alexandre de Moraes was the first supreme court justice of five to announce his decision on Tuesday, as the trial of Bolsonaro and seven alleged co-conspirators – including four senior members of the military and the former head of Brazil’s answer to MI6 – entered its final stretch.

“The defendant, Jair Bolsonaro, was leader of this criminal structure,” the judge told a courtroom in the capital, Brasília, during a five-hour speech detailing what he called Bolsonaro’s “authoritarian project”.

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 82 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Brazil’s government is in better shape than the US government is.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Can you name a Government that is in worse shape?

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

True. I don’t think I’d want to live in Russia, Afghanistan, North Korea or Hungary because of the shape of their governments, but it’s definitely a short list.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Russia might be, but that bar is lower than the Mariana Trench tbh..

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Russia is dogwalking the US. They are a cancerous blight on humanity but they are better run than the US.

Before anyone finds a hint of respect for russia in here know there is none, greedy orcs rape and murder for someone else's yacht money when they could have been a first world silicon leader. Most naturally resourceful country on earth, too cowardly to make the necessary changes to their society to excel.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Nepal? China is gonna sweep in to help

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

This a question that I will always answer with "Belgium". Even in trump times.

NK is basically a monarchy...

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 78 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Way better shape. The police actually arrested the traitors on the day they did the treason. What a novel fucking concept.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 42 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

i'm so jealous of south korea and brazil rn

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago
[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You know what helps? A populace willing to protest.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The US public has been protesting pretty much non stop since the 60s.

Their politicians have responded not by addressing the grievances of the people, but by increasingly criminalizing nonviolent protest to the point that it's often classified as literal terrorism.

To call the US system a representative democracy is naive to the point of being downright farcical and has been for several decades.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ch aging your facebook picture and shitposting on lemmy doesn't count.

Look to France or Nepal on how a real protest looks like.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

Hey now! The Americans have done far more than that, they've peacefully wandered around the neighbourhood and played some acoustic guitar. If that doesn't attract the attention of politicians, what will?

/s

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, imagine having a real, functioning government.

Must be nice. As an American millennial, sadly not something I ever really got to experience.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago

Most other governments are, at this point

[–] Thalion@lemmy.ca 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, the mere fact that you have to reach for two of the most poverty stricken and lacking in natural resources countries in the world to compare with literally the richest country in this world in both money and natural resources is in itself pretty damn indicative of the failure of the US system to guard from giving the incompetent and the thoroughly corrupt all of the power.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Well, yeah, that was definitely part of my thinking. But also the humanitarian abuses.