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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Liberalism stratifies people into tiers of value. At the top are billionaires, below that smaller capitalists, below that wealthy professional workers, below that imperial core workers, &c. &c. until at the very bottom are working class in the imperial periphery. If harm toward a person in a lower tier has badness value 1, then harm toward a person a tier above them has badness value n, where n is an arbitrary number so large that no amount of violence against those in the lower tiers could result in a number comparable to it; comparisons are only possible within a given stratum because the differences in value between tiers are unbridgeably vast. For examples of this, see: how they talk about Alexei vs. how they talk about (or rather don't talk about) peasant children killed in the Russian Civil War, how much attention they give to imperial soldiers killed in wars vs. the people they're bombing, the Soviet famine of 1930–1933 vs. the Bengal famine.

(For anyone here who does programming, the analogy I'm probably poorly trying to make is to Big O notation)

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(For anyone here who does programming, the analogy I'm probably poorly trying to make is to Big O notation)

A small o notation would work somewhat better here, as big O just tells us about final boundedness of a function given a topological filter, and also doesn't tell us how the function behaves compared to previous 'n's.
With small o notation, you could order the tiers starting from the wealthiest/most influential/etc. This way, you could go for something like 'the way violence against people of tier n is considered/respected/recognised (on some relevant scale) is o(n) (with the topological filter n->inf'. o(n) given some topological filter F is a set of functions that can be represented as n multiplied by some other function that has the limit of 0 given the topological filter F, basically. The expression 'f(n) = o(n) [given topological filter F]' can be read as 'f is infinitely small relative to n [given topological filter F]'.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you reply to the wrong person?

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

might have been a "big O" joke

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Fuck lmao, how did I miss that