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the Iranian military attacked a crowd of protesters, killing ~88 and injuring between 205-8,000. The violence increased the unrest, leading to a general strike and the Shah fleeing the country in January 1979.

The massacre, known as Black Friday, began when thousands of protesters gathered in Tehran's Jaleh Square for a religious demonstration, unaware that the government had declared martial law a day earlier due to widespread political unrest.

Some sources estimate that 4,000 people were shot down by tanks, guns, and military helicopters. The deaths were described as the pivotal event in the Iranian Revolution that ended any "hope for compromise" between the protest movement and regime of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

The massacre led to widespread protests, and a general strike in October shut down the petroleum industry that was essential to the administration's survival. The Shah fled Iran in January 1979, clearing the way for the Iranian Revolution, led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Black Friday: The Massacre That Ignited a Revolution in Iran

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Coworker is a creationist. I know the christian right is dominating the country right now, but I kinda forgot about these guys, let alone a ton of Americans are young earth creationists.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

People give the atheist movement shit and dunk on it too hard. These people never stopped being a problem. If you can believe in magical shit like that you can deny material reality and your own interests all day too.

Hot take:It got co-opted and turned into gamer-gate and Jordan Peterson anti-muslim enlightened west stuff (though a lot of people just checked out or moved onto other liberal or left causes too so only the reactionaries and grifters remained giving a false impression) but it started out with very real and deserved objections and anger towards very deranged people with absurd nonsensical and dangerous magical beliefs that were widespread and trying to worm their way into everything. On a national level I feel the whole Evangelical thing kind of hit pause after Bush left office and Obama replaced him, they receded in favor of racism, the tea party, libertarian weirdos on the national stage and didn't accomplish that much on the state level either for a few years. So liberals and leftists assumed for some reason they were some 90s relic that we didn't need to worry or think about anymore. But they never went away, they just kind of sat in the back for a bit nursing their grudges and biding their time and now they've won the repeal of Roe and many other things.

Now we kind of see the fruits of this stuff with RFK jr and the other dangerous anti-science woo. The covid denial would have happened regardless because of the interests of the bourgeoisie to sacrifice workers to keep profits flowing and the reactionary individualistic self-centered culture in the US. But I feel like a lot of the things we're now seeing could only grow as quickly as they have in soil made fertile by YECs, made fertile by people crying about ground up babies in vaccines as part of the anti-choice movement, made fertile by the Christian right and their ridiculous conspiracies and satanic panic that started in the 80s, and made fertile by the Christian right's all out attacks on the trustworthiness of science as a concept in order to attempt to bring down evolution and biology (as well as geology which also debunks YEC pretty strongly).

The thing is, (Evangelical) Christianity is a pillar of the control of the bourgeoisie within the empire. It's ready-made Gladio. A huge series of interconnected human networks of frothing, reality denying, violent, armed, aggrieved feeling fascist families and individuals. They live among us everywhere. They're politicians at the state and local level yes. But they're also teachers, they're also small business tyrants, they're also warehouse workers, they're also tech workers. They have eyes and ears everywhere. They believe in the protestant work ethic which should be called the happy slave's work ethic because that's what it is. They gulp down dubious tales spread on zuckerbook and reinforce each others reactionary nature and beliefs constantly, weekly. Hucksters on TV and the internet called TV evangelists reach those who can't or won't go in person to a church every Sunday, making nice pocket change and hammering home anti-materialist thinking, selfish thinking, self-righteous, aggrieved thinking.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

It got co-opted and turned into gamer-gate and Jordan Peterson anti-muslim enlightened west stuff

When the more progressive people moved on to other places, I think people over-corrected into abandoning Atheism / anti theism / anti Evangelicalism as a tenant of their beliefs. Yes Nu Atheists were chauvinists which caused them to especially target Islam, but they weren't wrong about Evangelicals being an issue. Just the movement split between progressive who went onto hopefully better things, and the neocons who all became chuds.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

entertain yourself trying to get them to believe other ridiculous lies

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Biblical giants existing and being found in Afghanistan by US troops is a goodie and an oldie to spring on these types.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

talk to them about mantracks