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Nextcloud asked in a poll at https://mastodon.social/@nextcloud@mastodon.xyz/115095096413238457 what database its users are running. Interestingly one fifth replied they don't know. Should people know better where their data is stored, or is it a good thing everything is running so smoothly people don't need to know what their software stack is built upon?

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Every person using a computer should know what their filesystem is and what database they are using. Otherwise they are fools.

Can you believe kids don’t know what NTFS or APFS are these days?! Stupid iPad babies.

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Haha at some point it did matter to regular folks though. I remember in Junior high when I would try to pirate games or software on Windows, I learned the big difference between fat32 and the new filesystem Microsoft released, NTFS because I couldn't download files larger than 4GB on fat32.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s important if you’re using flash drives across platforms though that’s pretty rare these days too. My wife has run into this problem by formatting as ExFAT (GUID partition table) when print shops’ terrible machines only support FAT32 and/or MBR partition tables.

Thankfully macOS at home understands ExFAT otherwise those formatted drives from her Windows work computer wouldn’t even work.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

At that point, were you regular folks though?

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

True, I guess not. But piracy was big at that age group because we were kids who didn't have our own money, so if our parents didn't buy the games we wanted, people would try to download them instead. So I fell into learning this detail by necesssity instead of out of pure curiosity or desire to learn more about the computer. I wanted to download Neverwinter Nights or whatever game, and fat32 was standing in my way, haha

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

FAT32 is still a very common filesystem for flash drives and memory cards because it works on everything. Lots of people are likely to run into the 4GB file size limit.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

I remember having to open ".zip.1" files lol. From the split zips.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I still have a FAT32 external drive that this (very) rarely still bites me 😫 there's nothing important on it, so I've been lazy

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wait is APFS a new file system than NTFS? Guess I'm too busy on my Tiktoks and Nintendos to keep up to date

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 12 points 3 days ago

Damn kids with your twitternets and me mes.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Ah that would explain why I didn't know. I have next to no experience with Apple devices.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look into it, it’s pretty good.

And Apple updated hundreds of millions of devices to it from an old file system without losing any data. Imagine Microsoft pulling off such a migration. It was silently done in the background with a normal OS update. Really impressive.

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No, it's garbage because of its approach to case sensitivity.

It's case insensitive by default (which is a WTF in itself and encourages the same laziness Windows users thrive on with NTFS) but it also has a case sensitive mode.

Except the case sensitive mode is almost entirely useless because of the amount of apps it breaks that assume the default case-insensitive mode. It also means that you as a programmer have to add extra crap to your file handling code for case insensitive string comparisons if you want to support both modes

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Armor piercing fin stabilized.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It's used on popular toys and consumer gadgets. Most well to do tech nerds don't bother with such riff raff either.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago

Holy Poe's Law...

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Kids don't event know the folder struture of their Home directory, so why would they know what a File System is? Lol

[–] DaveX64@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's :)

[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

That kid is never going to figure out if they downloaded the assignment pdf to “Downloads (iPad)” or “Downloads (iCloud)”