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Via Jen Sorensen's website.:

I’ve been curious about the homesteading movement for a long time, albeit from a non-tradwife perspective. For a few years I subscribed to Mother Earth News, whose pages of solar panel installations and gardening tips filled my head with pastoral fantasies. (It’s possible that growing up in rural Pennsylvania planted a seed of affection for farm life, even though I suspect I would be terrible at it.) So I have nothing against people who decide to abandon the corporate world, or soulless suburbs, to live close to the land. I’m just not so into oppressive gender roles and unpasteurized milk.

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[–] frog@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Well, you don't actually have to drink raw milk. I always thought that is such a weird thing we do. Like eating meat, I get. People hunted and gathered so people say that is always part of being a homosapien. Raising the animal just to eat it makes sense even if not ethical. Corporation goals are profits.

But raising an animal and keeping it in a state to produce just for it's milk, is a little weird when you think about it, especially considering how many people are lactose intolerant. Also it is targeted towards everyone, like adults. Milk is made for the young. Children stop drinking milk from their human mother, so society decided the next step is to keep supplying milk from a caged animal, a completely different species, forever.

Sounds like some weird sci-fi shit.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Even beyond the whole "drinking milk is weird" thing, there's not really a reason to drink raw milk. I mean, maybe it tastes better, but that can't be worth the risk, and even the Amish have cooking pots.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

so like, we finally figured out what was so special about the milk out on the dairy a few years back. i'm going to tell you the secret it was not about the milk being fresh outta the cow or anything. We drank it out of Aluminum. Cups. Cheap ones. You can buy them online and the metal makes the milk feel colder. fresher. crisper. Also it was whole milk but y'know.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But is a life without cheese and butter worth living? A croissant without butter? A pizza without cheese? I, I, no. I just can't.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I actually get panic attacks if I voluntarily eat animal stuff. So uh, yeah it's worth living.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you ever involuntarily fed animal stuff and are ok with it?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's happened, and I'm not "ok" with it but it doesn't induce panic the same way because it's not my own complicit participation.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Drinking milk is more pleasant than eating grass directly, so it is not thatweird.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 3 days ago

If I had animals that were already lactating, I'd probably make cheese. I would also probably make 2 different batches to do a side by side test between pasteurized cheese and non-pasteurized cheese just so I can see if Europeans are right.