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But 16 years ago, democrats gave us watered-down heritage foundation health policy and haven't done shit since! Gen Z are clearly a bunch of ingrates.
Don't forget that ever since the other side has been trying to tear down that watered down version too, so what little people are given is always under threat of being removed
And the side that passed it doesn't seem to give much of a shit about protecting it. But lord will they act like it's the "everything is perfect forever act" if someone expects them to do anything.
Ratchet Effect baby, Ratchet Effect!
It's funny how so many of the policies of Eisenhower - a Republican - are too much to the Left for the present day Democrat Party.
If I recall correctly, they didn't have enough votes for single-payer and passed the compromise that they could get done .
Single payer was never on the table, (and if centrists have their way it never will be) and the public option was a bill of goods designed to be jettisoned from the outset.
They had a supermajority. Like always, they find enough no votes.
The country gave them a supermajority and then the bar became "Well you didn't give us every seat in congress so womp womp."
Just more bullshit. In no universe does either major party want to lose out on the health insurance confidence scheme bribe money.
The county met them on their nearly impossible terms which a supermajority is, we met our end. they're just bullshit artists running a con just like the Republican fascists.
The original plan for ACA had a single-payer option.
The compromised ACA itself passed the house only by a couple votes. The party is not a monolith and had a number of moderates that opposed single-payer.
Like hell it did.
The version they always intended to pass.
They expect the voters to vote as a bloc but won't do so themselves.
No matter how big a majority democrats have, they always find just enough no votes.
It's Manchin, straight up. And then Ted Kennedy died and they lost the supermajority and had to pass what the Senate had already voted on because anything different would be filibustered.
It was lieberman and nelson. manchin hadn't rotated in yet.
You're right, and let's not forget the Franken recount that lasted until June. So a very brief window to get stuff done.
They could have completely done away with the filibuster forever with only 50.
I will never accept the "we need 60 to get anything done" excuse. It just means "we don't want to do anything."
I don't really buy that. Even the Rs haven't gone that far. Imagine how much worse things could be if they had.
You're arguing against well-known historical fact. You have a lot of emotional angst getting in the way of your judgment and understanding of nuance.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/obama-shying-away-public-option-or-not
The public option was not single payer. It also was never meant to be in the final bill. It was the bargaining chip they were dangling to negotiate with the republicans. When the republicans showed themselves to be unmoveable, they had to get Lieberman to play the part to get rid of it.
Your article doesn't back up your ridiculous lie that single payer was the original plan for the ACA.
Also, gaslighting is abuse, and it's no surprise that the republican-adjacent wing of the party resorts to it so quickly.