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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I've expressed some caveats to just citing the figure from this study before in another thread (hi, Sunshine lol), but overall yes, even without this study, there's robust evidence for double-digit reduced risk of CHD and overall cancer in plant-based diets compared to omnivorous ones. A recent meta-analysis for example shows a 15% reduction to overall cancer incidence risk, and even a substantial reduction in a vegetarian diet from an omnivorous one.

And to be clear, the evidence from this study is good. This isn't "study bad"; it's just primary medical literature that needs to later be interpreted by experts through things like meta-analyses.


Edit: Also, please don't take jet seriously below. All they do here is spread pseudoscientific nonsense about a diet with proven major health risks and no clinical evidence of benefits. This is akin to someone who believes vaccines are linked with autism evaluating a vaccine safety study. Neither you nor I nor especially they are qualified to interpret primary medical literature like this. Please just wait for the meta-analyses that include this study in them and leave it at that; we should want to be involved in science, but we should also acknowledge our own limitations and avoid the Dunning–Kruger effect. That's why I, a mod at /c/vegan, am not sitting here shitting my pants over this study that says vegans have a 24% lower cancer risk. It's cool, but I want to wait for people more qualified than I am to interpret it.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please Try to focus on the scientific aspects and refrain from making overly partisan or inflammatory content. Our aim is to foster a respectful environment where we can delve into the scientific foundations of these topics.

Editing your comment to include a attack on someones character is inflammatory.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is not about your character. It's about your beliefs being incompatible with modern medical science. You mod this public health community but have pseudoscientific beliefs which are diametrically opposed to a modern understanding of public health. Attacking your character would be to say you're doing this out of malice or baselessly accusing you of shilling. I believe you believe this, and I believe that if you believe a Western pattern diet is killing people (it is; this is the main thing we agree on), it shows strong ethical character to try to warn people about it. What's problematic is that your solution to it is so divorced from science that people who just read comments and nod along because they sound plausible need to be aware of the lens you're interpreting this study through.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You are bringing in external bias into a discussion of one study, which is what this post is about.

We disagree on diet decisions, but nothing I've said in this post has been about my personal choices. You are escalating a grudge you have had historically with me into a unrelated discussion. That is a definitional attack on character.

Please stay on topic, which is the study in the post, if you want to attack my character as human or literate abilities you may do so in a different community, but not here.