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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A guy with a Nazi mother and White-Russian father who emigrated to a city built around the famous rocketry lab was almost certainly influenced by the German brand of fascist ideology.

You linked a source saying his mother was German, not that she was a Nazi. His father also did not move straight to Huntsville in 1951 according to this post, he retired there over a decade later after having worked in ~~Florida~~ Jacksonville (thanks to derfunkatron for the correction).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You linked a source saying his mother was German, not that she was a Nazi.

I linked a source saying she was a German refugee from 1945 who emigrated to a township staffed full of Nazi emigres. Also, his father was White Russia - 100% a fascist.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They did not move straight to Huntsville.

It's also absolutely ridiculous to call all White emigres Nazis. Was Alexander Kerensky a Nazi?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s also absolutely ridiculous to call all White emigres Nazis.

The White Army was openly and explicitly Fascist

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

I see what you mean (though "explicitly" needs a citation) but not all so-called white emigres were members of the White Movement; "white emigre" is a misnomer. For example Trotsky could theoretically be called a white emigre, and less tenuously anyone fleeing the civil war would count.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To quote the wiki page you linked:

The White Armies comprised a number of different groups, who operated independently and did not share a single ideology or political goal.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know what the White movement is. Their only unifying factor was opposition to the Reds. If you want to claim that it was "openly and explicitly fascist", quote the bit you want. The wiki article does not actually use the word "fascist" at all, so I assume that when you say "explicitly" you either do not actually mean "explicitly" or you are referring to something other than what you linked

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know what the White movement is.

You clearly don't.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

Stop dancing around the issue and quote what you are referring to.