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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Alabama was the birthplace of the modern Civil Rights Movement, from Montgomery to Birmingham to Selma.

I mean, isn't that because the core of the movement was persecuted black Southerners? Alabama having enough of thise guys to kickstart the movement feels like more of an indictment than praise.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's like saying the birthplace of antifascism was Fascist Germany or Italy... Like, yeah... It be like it do, because of how it did?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s like saying the birthplace of antifascism was Fascist Germany or Italy…

Post-WW1 Italy had one of the largest and most active Communist Parties in Europe. I don't think it is reasonable to say "Italians are just fascist because of where they grew up" when you've got an enormous contrary datapoint. Neither is it reasonable to say Alabama produces racists ex nihilo. In the case of Redstone Arsenal, the federal government effective created a Fascist Reservation System and cultivated European extremist refugees like it was some kind of political petri dish.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I mean, isn’t that because the core of the movement was persecuted black Southerners?

You could find persecuted black workers from California to New York to Florida in 1963. Alabama wasn't notable in that regard.

The movement that the nascent 50s civil rights movement tapped into in Alabama was a large socio-economic network of majority-minority townships, allied churches, and civic organizations that the white nationalist state was already struggling to control. Much like with Rosewood, Florida and Tulsa, Oklahoma, the problem in Alabama was that too many black residents were doing too well.

The response to the 60s Civil Rights Movement along the Gulf Coast was to demolish a lot of that black wealth, export jobs overseas, and lynch a lot of those young black leaders.

Exactly my thought when I read that.