Yeah I'm a trans gender bisexual nazi. Gotchya. I do wonder when the communists here will learn that Russia isn't communist any more and is instead a capitalist...empire! You don't need to suck their dick all the time

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I'm a trans gender bisexual nazi.

I see that Ernst Rohm is back.

I do wonder when the communists here will learn that Russia isn't communist any more and is instead a capitalist...empire!

This 'argument' is bizarre. You do realise that NATO is not communist, either, right? And that NATO is orders of magnitude worse than every other polity on the planet, by virtue of being the most prolific invader in the world, engaging in at least one high-profile genocide, engaging in colonialism, etc., right?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Even if you're right about Russia being imperialist, the so-called "Russian empire" is objectively less evil than the US empire.

Why don't you support the lesser evil?

[–] floopus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Russia is clearly imperialist, just ask chechnya, georgia, and indeed Ukraine. There was/is also the Wagner group which represented Russian presence in Africa. Also the war crimes committed by Russia in the Kharkiv Region says everything I need to know about them.

In terms of holding preference towards Russia or America, I am tempted to choose neither. Clearly America has engaged in pretty blatantly evil shit over the decades its been a super power. However, I would argue the only reason why Russia could be viewed as not as "evil" as America is because Russia is simply unable to engage in the same levels of imperialism.

So given this, I do not support either America or Russia. I support Ukraine's independence, and the way to do that is to send military aid, which I fully support

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

I'm not going to try to convince you that Russia isn't imperialist, you wouldn't listen anyway.

Instead, I'm going to point out the obvious.

So given this, I do not support either America or Russia. I support Ukraine’s independence, and the way to do that is to send military aid, which I fully support

And so you support the US/NATO bloc.

The military "aid" isn't free by the way. Ukraine is indebting itself to the US/NATO bloc in order to buy equipment, and however the war ends the debt collectors are going to come to ravage Ukraine and strip mine it for whatever is left. Ukraine will be a colony in all but name. Flag independence, but no sovereignty.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

so bottom line is, you support america

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

just ask chechnya

States never tolerate separatist movements, so what you are saying is that your state is imperialist as well. Considering that you are fine with that, we can conclude that you are also fine with Russia.
But also, the part of the Russian government that did support the Chechen separatists was literally shelled with tanks by the NATO-backed forces.

georgia

Georgia literally attacked the South Ossetian separatists and the peacekeepers.
It's extremely silly to be both pro-Georgia and pro-Chechnya in this context. By your own logic, one should condemn Georgia as imperialist.

and indeed Ukraine

Ukraine tried to join the gang of torturers and genocidaires that is NATO, and to bring their personnel and weaponry close to the most populated areas of its designated enemy. That is an act of aggression and the rest of the world has every right to defend against that.
Furthermore, Ukraine has invaded at least Iraq and Syria, which you are completely fine with.
Furthermore, Ukraine has been fighting its own separatists, whom Russia has been helping. By your logic, you should support them.

There was/is also the Wagner group which represented Russian presence in Africa.

Were they attacking African countries the way your empire has been doing?

Also the war crimes committed by Russia in the Kharkiv Region says everything I need to know about them.

You are fine with war crimes when Ukraine commits them, so you are fine with the Russian war crimes as well.

So given this, I do not support either America or Russia. I support Ukraine's independence,

Currently, the Ukrainian government is a USian puppet.

and the way to do that is to send military aid, which I fully support

Military aid to the separatists and Russia, that is. Surely you don't support states that try to join NATO, the most prolific invader in the world, do you?