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What is going on with people painting the red cross on the roundabouts to make the flag of england?
(lemmy.ml)
And why is this being related to rascism? It's not like people are burning the flag of other countries in videos.
Flags on lampposts are normal in Northern Ireland.
Usually the ones I find complaining are about illegal immigrants. Not immigrants in general who abide by the law
This is a wild thing to say when I know you're aware of the recent pogrom that happened in Northern Ireland that was targeted at those perceived to be 'illegal immigrants'. Like, do you think these people aren't just tarring all immigrants they don't like as 'illegal immigrants', like what happened in Ballymena?
In Ballymena, a large portion of immigrants were deliberately not targeted. It was mainly due to antisocial behaviour, which just so happened to be coming from a group of foreigners. Things like this happen to antisocial white people all of the time and it doesn't make the news.
And should go without saying, but no, I'm not defending it. It's just that what the media pushes out isn't reality.
"I'm not defending their actions, but their reasons were right" is such a cop out of an answer. Have you not considered that racists are going to hold racial minorities they don't like to a different standard to everyone else, and that maybe the Roma's behaviour wasn't so exceptionally bad? Or are you just going to blindly believe the words of people happy to violently remove racial minorities from their town?
But it wasn't down the 'illegal/legal' dichotomy you say are these people's primary concern, was it.
No it doesn't, if it did the Reform/DUP lot wouldn't shut about it. Or are you comparing a single person or family being ostracised to an entire racial group being pushed out of a town.
When did I say "their reasons were right". The whole time I've been saying that the media is oversimplifying it. And also that the police should have done something before it descended into violence.
And yes, this does happen. And the DUP do talk about these events.
I have several first hand contacts in Ballymena. They said this was one family. One used to work in a shop and had to ban them as they kept stealing stock. I also know another Romanian who deliberately avoided this other group of Romanians, to the point of crossing the road.
I've learned to trust first hand witnesses over the media. You'd be surprised over how wrong the media can be at times.
Many things that are normal in NI have their roots in sectarianism. Painting the kerb in union Jack or tricolour colours is also normal, but has roots in racism.
If they are complaining about immigration, it's about legal and illegal. People they meet are always the good ones. It's the imaginary ones that love a life of Reilly on a pittance that they hate. Everything is too expensive, even when you work, while simultaneously, migrants like refugees who get basic money to live are the problem.
They're always complaining about those 'nasty immigrants' who are both here to simultaneously steal their jobs whilst claiming all of the benefits going.
The simple translation... racists... they're all racist, xenophobic wankers and this country would actually be better of without them in it rather than those seeking a better life and are willing to work hard to get it.
In reality, Northern Ireland is a lovely place. A lot of our culture may have bad roots but most people are quite relaxed about everything.
Yes, it's great. Parts of the culture that are steeped in racism are not the good parts.
Not causing waves is not the same as being relaxed. I wouldn't complain about the colours in either community for my own safety there. People wanting to move on is purposely ignoring the bad parts to allow healing. The bad parts still need to go, over time.
I think people can learn mutual respect over time without attacking traditions.
Yeah, the racists like to say that, then they refuse to differentiate between the two. Almost like it's not the legality party they were concerned about.
Dunno if I'd like to assume that. I know other immigrants who don't like the boats either.
I think most rational people can think "stop the boats" without being racist