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Well… I guess we’re just not going to bother taking into account that red meat isn’t part of a mouse’s diet? And that maybe they’re going to react poorly when force fed things they generally don’t eat? This type of bullshit science needs to be called out for what it is.
Next, maybe we should see how well whales react if we feed them 3,000lbs of french fries.
At the same time, a lot of places aren't going to let scientists test on something closer to humans without something clearly showing a reason for it. The ethics board would wonder why they didn't try it on mice first, and wouldn't approve anything else.
That they found an effect in mice would be good justification to move up a step. If there was no effect, then that would be the end of that.
I assume you went through the actual published article and have the necessary expertise to come to this "bullshit" conclusion.
I don't really know enough about mouse (and human) gut biome to know what the similarities and caveats are.
Garlic, onions, citrus and beans fuck up and can even possibly kill mice, so it's not a straight comparison by any stretch
A quick google search will tell you what the primary diet of mice is: nuts and berries, small vertebrates and carrion.
Not USDA grade prime rib.
Not what the research is about though, but good doing your own research
Dude… it’s right in the article:
Not sure where you the from, by where I’m at- mice can’t take down a pig, cow, or sheep. Even if they worked together with the other hunter/gatherer mice in their tribe and really thought hard about how badly they wanted it.
Those animals are pretty defenseless after they die and no one is immune to that.
Again, not part of their diet.
You clearly don't get it. This is not about what they eat.
If you mix two chemicals, they react the same way. It doesn't matter if this happens inside a mouse or a human.
Their reaction to it might be different, which is what the article ponts out. But the gut biome still compares to what's inside a human, so if you introduce something like red meat, the measured reaction inside will be similar, even if it's not in their diet, like you shallowly point out.
Oh I get it. It’s entirely about what they eat. Otherwise, the scientists wouldn’t have FED them meat. They’d liquify it and inject it.
Their gut biome is entirely different from ours. There are foods we eat daily that is poison to them. They as hard as you’d like, it this is bullshit science. Essentially an easy way to get grant funds.
Nothing more.