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[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If I was China, I would be thrilled to hear that the west are building data centres for LLMs, sucking power from the grid, and using all their attention and money on AI, rather than building better universities and industry. Just sit back and enjoy, while I can get ahead in these areas.

[–] disco@lemdro.id 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They've been ahead for the past 2 decades. Government is robbing us blind because it only serves multinational corporations or foreign governments. It does not serve the people.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have a demographic pit in front of them which they themselves created with "1 child policy".

Also CCP too doesn't exactly serve the people. It's a hierarchy of (possibly benevolent) bureaucrats.

[–] disco@lemdro.id 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I never said they were ahead on social issues. They aren't and have never been. Their infrastructure shits on ours. Hell look at their healthcare system.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The one child policy and the nightmare that will cause is not just a social policy.

And yes, China's infrastructure is very very impressive, however it's also true that when everything has been built in the past 30 years, it's inevitably going to be a lot more efficient and modern than a country that has a lot of legacy baggage. A prime example of that is probably the UK, who are still trying to keep Victorian-era rail infrastructure working. Tearing out old stuff and replacing it is time consuming, complex, and expensive.

[–] disco@lemdro.id 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright, you act like China isn't older than the UK or the US.

It's older than both combined.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but they only industrialised very recently

[–] disco@lemdro.id 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ahh so it's even more impressive

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

...No, the point is that the initial buildout of infrastructure is easier and higher-value than renewing it, so it makes sense china has more modern infrastructure than other countries, given how recently they've industrialized.