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[โ€“] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 95 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Disruptive protest, no matter how annoying, is valid and should be protected under law. When the government moves to ban protest and dissent, they've crossed the line into authoritarianism.

The right to protest is a fundamental of democracy, and we should not accept any erosion of the fundamentals of democracy.

[โ€“] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I hate, hate to ask this, but would this have made January 6th "valid"?

[โ€“] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

No. "Valid" is not the word.

"Legal" to a point, and then abruptly lethal to those who escalated it to violence and crimes against the nation. (Yes, that means that, by the book, Trump should already have swung for this alone.)

[โ€“] Juno@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

That wasn't a protest, it was an attempt at a government takeover and overthrow. It was an attempted coup, with a whole list of people to install that were never voted into office. That's not a protest. Maybe protesting is part of that, but that's not a protest.

Questions of it being valid or not don't apply to things that are not protests.

[โ€“] freeindv@monyet.cc 1 points 10 months ago

Well it was a mostly peaceful protest after all

[โ€“] TBooneChickens@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

What do you mean by "protected under the law"? And what constitutes disruptive protest?

[โ€“] JammaJammaPJ@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

*Peaceful protest yes. Protest that doesn't violate the rights of the people who live and work in the area.

[โ€“] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They stated disruptive. If no one elses rights are violated it is not disruptive. At minimum disruptive to me would have to include intentionally blocking roadways and holding up everyone else. (Which does violate the rights of people who live and work in the area). So your stance sounds as if to be opposite of the person you commented on.

[โ€“] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Then it should be lawful to manually get the protesters off of the road.

[โ€“] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It should be legal to manually get the pit into the barbara-pit

[โ€“] Kynuck97@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean like the Nazi in Charlottesville tried to do?

Go seek help before you kill somebody.

[โ€“] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, I don't want to kill anyone, I don't even own a car. I just made fun of something I thought was ridiculous with something even more ridiculous.

I personally never even saw such a protest, but I think it's very ridiculous to "protect by law" blocking people, that maybe even agree with you, from reaching the cemetery, weddings, or other important events on time.

Edit: btw why is everyone attaching images that take up half my phone's screen and make their comments hard to read? Is this some new trend?

[โ€“] Kynuck97@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If protests arent disruptive they're effectively politcally-charged social gatherings.

And no, you dont get to just "Move people out of the way" so you can get to your event, job, or whatever. Protestors do get run over - its not funny or ridiculous, it's fucking pathetic.

[โ€“] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Yep, fully agree.

What I meant was ridiculous was suggesting something that pathetic.

[โ€“] ergifruit@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

if you wanna run over people that bad, why not try playing GTA?

[โ€“] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

If you wanna annoy people that bad, why not try playing GTA?

[โ€“] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Why is your whole comment redacted lol

[โ€“] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hope you're okay with taking in your last sights through a spiderweb of punctured glassvivian-shrug