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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I keep running into this problem where I hear about this conservative intellectual and I go to read their work. I know I'm not going to agree with them, but let me find the flaw or where our values diverge in their argument.

When I gloss it, I'll assume the problem is me when i fail to find that spot. So I do a closer, more serious reading of their work. Still don't see it. Again. Fail. Again. Fail. Again.fsil.failfsilfisjl.

These "intellectuals" are people who haven't read widely, haven't practice developing ideas, and don't know how to write a structured argument.These fuckers were "STEM" smart from a young age, probably without much effort, got accolades from everyone about how smart they were, and thought the liberal arts were a joke. And honestly, until advanced high school classes, they often are. Because before that age, your brain lacks the skills and data to do it at all.

Their combined rhetorical strength lies in misleading statements, provocations, and hiding their true intent behind mealy mouth pseudo intellectualism. At least Yarvin will come out and say he wants feudalism. Fuck Jordan Peterson in particular. I am worse off for ever having tried to comprehend his thinking. I'm not sure who else sucks in this day and age, but I include Theil, bronze age pervert, and the CEO of Palintar. All, I believe, have advanced degrees in the liberal arts.

This isn't to say that there aren't conservatives worth reading and disagreeing with, but the surface is polluted.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Maybe you'll find my take on it interesting: https://lemmy.world/post/33807544/18577415

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I genuinely don’t understand how Peterson has a PhD. I’ve listened to his lectures and they are just pointless garbage. He squints at Jung, comes up with this manicheanism where men = order women = disorder and just verbal diarrheas from there.

I’ve only had a little formal education in psychology, but enough that people have paid me to teach it, and I don’t understand how anyone in the field could be impressed.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ben Carson is one of the best brain surgeons in the world. Dr Oz was considered the best heart surgeon in the world.

Expertise and education do not equal intelligence.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My dad is a literal rocket scientist with an illustrious career at NASA navigating satellites and space probes. University of Missouri, but CalTech / MIT material math wizard.

He's full MAGA now. The scary part is now he regurgitates FOX News sound bites he'd disagree with twenty years ago.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're cutting some of that stuff at NASA. Does he work for the ScaN folks? That's LEGS, HDTN, CSP, NEO, TDRSS, NEN, DSN, etc. I just wonder if people who are getting their jobs cut are still gung ho for Trump.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Oh he's retired now. He worked on CloudSat (and just retired it; it served a long time to scan storms and hurricanes even after it started malfunctioning). He also worked on OCO (Orbital Carbon Observatory), and its successor, but the faring on the rocket failed to disconnect both times and it fell into the South Atlantic. Launch vehicles don't come with a warranty, I learned.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Slept his way though college?

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jorge Hirsch, the creator of the h-index asserts that a “successful scientist” will have an h-index of 20 after 20 years; an “outstanding scientist” will have an index of 40 after 20 years; and a “truly unique individual” will have an index of 60 after 20 years or 90 after 30 years. Jordan Peterson has an h-index of 57.

His academic work had been cited well over 10,000 times before he became a publicly-known figure in 2016.

He obviously isn't a quack in the field of psychology, by any objective measure.

Yes exactly, there is more nuance to a person than just right and wrong