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[–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think on point 1, Tolkien would argue that Melian was not any more divine than the first Elves or Men. Angels aren't God, even if Men viewed them as such.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Then how could she could do that magic barrier thing then? She's at least as divine as Gandalf and i feel life if Gandalf had canon children they obviously be Magic/ Special/the protagonist etc

Compared to just some elf yknow

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

In Fellowship of the Ring, Galadriel (who learned from Melian) comments that she doesn't understand what Sam means by "magic". What the Elves and Maiar have over Men isn't supernatural or divine, it's sufficiently advanced technology. The Maiar have a more fundamental understanding of and connection to the world because they were present for and part of its creation, and the Elves (at least, the Ñoldor like Galadriel) were taught by them directly.