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it's weird they don't talk about how aragorn is 1) literally of divine, not just elven, lineage and 2) related to arwen i wonder what Tolkien was trying to say there
TBH, his relation to Arwen is about 20 degrees of separation.
Yeah but i said this to my partner today but like if it's so distant it doesn't matter then why mention it j .r "it's not my fetish" r. Tolkien
Now I can't help but imagine a modern Tolkien writing one of those Transported to Another World Where I've Enslaved My Elven Step-cousin type light novels
Ara ara, Aragorn-kun
Wasn't it only mentioned in the appendices, where their entire genealogy was described?
It can be pieced together from Elrond describing his ancestry in Fellowship and Legolas commenting that Aragorn is of the line of Luthien in Returb of the King
She was his grand-grand-etc-cousin 6500 years apart. Even for Dunedain that's a lot of generations.
I think on point 1, Tolkien would argue that Melian was not any more divine than the first Elves or Men. Angels aren't God, even if Men viewed them as such.
Then how could she could do that magic barrier thing then? She's at least as divine as Gandalf and i feel life if Gandalf had canon children they obviously be Magic/ Special/the protagonist etc
Compared to just some elf yknow
In Fellowship of the Ring, Galadriel (who learned from Melian) comments that she doesn't understand what Sam means by "magic". What the Elves and Maiar have over Men isn't supernatural or divine, it's sufficiently advanced technology. The Maiar have a more fundamental understanding of and connection to the world because they were present for and part of its creation, and the Elves (at least, the Ñoldor like Galadriel) were taught by them directly.