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I need a better option then. What can yall suggest?
Firefox
Sure I use that too but you should have at least one chromium based browser for certain features though.
I use LibreWolf (FireFox fork) + Ungoogled Chromium
This is my setup, and I never actually use ungoogled chromium.
If I have some kind of issue that I need to work around immediately rather then figure out, I usually just open Firefox and try that.
Vivaldi? (Sort of continuation of Opera, run by it's former CTO.)
Vivaldi is OK, but I would replace it with something else. It's a pretty busy UI and I have had issues with it freezing in Fedora 42 KDE.
I personally haven't had to use a chromium browser for anything yet since my swith to Firefox. Only to test a render bug in chromium that Google hasn't bothered to fix in over 9 years for a case that works correctly in every other browser.
Why should you? What are these certain features?
Yes some tools do not work with Firefox. It‘s a niche but I‘ve run into it a few times just recently. For example with a gamepad enabler tool where Firefox simply won‘t be able to see your USB input.
The thing is, Firefox follows web standards. Chrome doesn’t always and websites put in custom code that works only with Chrome.
I’d rather use the browser that follows standards.
Well I‘m not saying you should use chromium as your main browser. In fact I think you shouldn‘t. But sometimes there is no way around it. It‘s okay to be realistic about these things.
Mozilla also has many problems
I'm out of the loop. What are the many problems with Mozilla?
I saw you mention the Mr. Robot extension in another comment. That looks to be a bad decision but what else are the "many problems?"
Most problems are because of how Mozilla works. According to some devs, they gatekeep some contributions and they don't really act and communicate with the community like FOSS projects are expected to. They also spend a lot of money on some - useless - stuff. They're really slow to improve their software and Firefox defaults with some questionable stuff (regular pings, Google bullshit...)
The Better bird dev talks a bit about this, and you also have some other resources: https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU (I don't remember every link and everything I've seen but this should be a good start)
Thorium.