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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (30 children)

Democrats

  • Retain marriage rights for gay couples.

  • Expand legality of recreational drugs.

  • Free food for schoolchildren.

  • Tax credits for families with children.

  • Subsidized for free childcare.

  • Expand electric car charging nationally.

  • Subsidize sustainable fuel sources.

  • Fact based education standards.

  • Stop racism in policing.

  • Expanded healthcare subsidies.

  • Preserve democracy.

Republicans

  • Being gay or trans should be illegal.

  • White supremacy is great!

  • Christianity as national religion.

  • Privatize the post office and weather service.

*Eliminate the EPA, Department of Education.

  • Defund IRS.

  • Disenfranchise nonwhites and women.

  • Antivax agenda.

  • Expand fossil fuel use.

  • Eliminate worker safety laws.

  • Eliminate collective bargaining and union rights.

  • Defunding science research.

  • Deregulate crypto.

  • No regulations on AI.

  • No recognition of child's educational or bodily autonomy rights.

  • Eliminate hate crime laws except for straight white men.

  • End democracy, install fascist dictatorship.

But yeah, they are totally the same, right guys? RIGHT!?!

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 56 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Fact based education standards.

Teaching a bunch of lies about American exceptionalism and how imperialism is actually good isn’t what I’d call “fact based”

Stop racism in policing

Right like how democrats in nearly all major cities increased police funding and almost none passed any meaningful reform.

Expanded healthcare subsidies

But don’t remotely consider universal healthcare

Preserve democracy

Preserve the status quo which I wouldn’t call a democracy. A democracy enacts the will of the people, democrats don’t even have a democratic primary for their own party.

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[–] piefood@feddit.online 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

I think you dropped this:

Democrats & Republicans

  • Bombed kids
  • Tortured innocent people
  • Increased the surveillance state
  • Took money from the poor and working class, and gave it to their rich friends
  • Spent billions on wars, while claiming that they couldn't afford to fix our healthcare or housing problems
  • Boasted about deporting more people than Republicans
  • Backed a Genocide
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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You've certainly whitewashed Dems quite a lot. You're fundamentally not wrong though. As bad as the Dems are, and they are very bad, MAGA is undeniably worse. If we had some other electoral system, we could safely explore other options. But we don't. We have FPTP, which makes it a binary choice between bad and worse.

And worse is just so, so much worse. That doesn't make bad good, but it's still a binary choice. You'd have to be evil or stupid to try to muddy the waters so that bad seems close enough to worse that people don't feel the urgency of choosing bad to prevent worse.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The lesser evil choice is whichever hastens the collapse of your monstrous, genocidal empire

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dems can be convinced to try other election systems besides FPTP because they fundamentally believe in democracy. From my perspective, fixing things without violence is still an option with Dems. It isn't with Republicans.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

because they fundamentally believe in democracy.

Westerners will go on and on about how North Koreans are brainwashed to worship their leaders, then say shit like this.

fixing things without violence

Apparently doing the modern holocaust doesn't' count as "violence" to white supremacist BlueMAGA fascists.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm hoping Musk gets some momentum with his third party. Either it splits the Republican vote and slows down this freefall into fascism, or he dumps tons of resources into promoting some variety of RCV. Either way, that's a net benefit in my eyes.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Either you're stupid or you're lying.

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