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The warning was direct, blunt and left no room for doubt. "We expect all ICC actions against the United States and our ally Israel – that is, all investigations and all arrest warrants – to be terminated," said Reed Rubinstein, legal adviser at the US State Department, before delegates of the 125 member states of the International Criminal Court (ICC) on Tuesday, July 8, at a meeting at United Nations headquarters in New York from July 7 to 9.

If the ICC arrest warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes issued against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former defense minister Yoav Gallant on November 21, 2024, as well as ongoing investigations into crimes committed in the Gaza Strip and the settlement of Palestinian territory, are not dropped, "all options remain on the table," he declared.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

There is no statue of limitations on genocide. And Trump won't be president forever. And younger Americans (i.e. the future) are really fucking sick of Israel's shit.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Trump won’t be president forever.

So? The previous administration had the same policy on Israel, as do both parties currently.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The American public used to broadly support Israel. That support has plummeted in the last 2 years, particularly among younger Americans. As they age into a more prominent voting demographic, this changes the types of platforms that politicians run, and win on.

I want to point out that the shift in opinion is more a generational one than left/right one, even though there is a notable difference between the parties.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

The politicians are still payed by aipac, all the already strong support for palestine by people did nothing . People will still vote for the same two zionist parties. Netenyaho is determined to do the final solution . How many more months gazan can survive?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with Trump then?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That his policies won't be in effect forever.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

But supporting Israel isn't a Trump specific policy.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, good luck hoping a future murican president will fix this

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't have to. They just have to stop blocking other nations from doing so, e.g. via UN vetoes and various sanctions against ICC.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Have any USA president, from any of the 2 allowed parties, ever NOT blocked or vetoed a sanction against Israel or allowed a modicum of dignity to Palestine?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Wow, this was a shock! hehehe

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People are still voting for the same two party supporting israel unconditionally

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

The cracks are really starting to show. The Democratic party is effectively tearing itself apart right now.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

No US president has ever faced a war crimes tribunal, despite every one of them killing large numbers of civilians.

Nor will they face one, until like nazi germany, the US is overthrown and its leaders are made to account for its crimes.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is, in large part, one of the reasons many of these authoritarian types get out of control.

On some level they know whether or not they consider their actions to be illegal that other people will. At some point they anticipate blowback and a lot of their flailing overreach stems directly from trying to get out ahead of any consequences that may come their way.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

It absolutely is. It's one of those things that you can't really turn back from once you start down that road.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, the more time passes, the less incentive there is for many people to pursue justice when there are newer things on their plates.

Same as modern Web's "attention economy".

But frankly in classical cultures they knew that too, catch the moment, now or never.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fortunately when these laws were introduced, they were not applied retrospectively, so settler nations where the genocides kicked off 200 years ago are totally exempt! Phew that was close.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not aware of any laws that have been passed that are applied retroactively. It's referred to as an ex post facto law, and in the U.S. it is prohibited in the Constitution (for whatever that is worth these days).