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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (32 children)

I guess you don't work under communism.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (31 children)

Yeah, people didn't. They didn't give a shit about the "collective" farms. They worked because they were forced to and fucked it up for everyone because there was no difference between giving it your all and slacking off. Hundreds of microfarms worked better than one large collective one because they didn't think it was "ours" they thought it was "nobodys".

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The same is true for capitalism too, though.

If you work in your own little company or if you are self-employed, then the "mission" of your work might be important to you and a source of motivation.

But if you work in a huge corporation, hardly anything you do actually matters. If don't perform at 100% and instead slack off, there are other people doing the same work. And if everyone slacks off, then they just hire more people. And even if the whole department underperforms, there are other departments that rake in the money.

And whether the company thrives or goes under, your input as a lowly grunt wouldn't have made a difference anyway. Even as a mid-level manager your input wouldn't have made a difference.

Years of my work at my job can be wiped out with one email from the CEO.

Literally the only difference between capitalism and communism when it comes to that is whether the CEO wipes out my work or the state.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But if a CEO does something that actually destroys the company (without question) the governance structure that most companies in most countries have will put a halt to it. If the company is of size to have an actual CEO than they will have a need for a governance structure.

The sad part is that due to whatever reason it doesn't always work like that.

Heck somebody once told me that in the US you can just fire people for whatever, which is insane to me

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Governance structures aren't without fail either, as exemplified with quite a few big corporations going down over time.

Governance structures are also present in political systems, and also there they can fail.

A government and a corporation are really not all that dissimilar when it comes to managing work, projects and so on.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah that was also my reason to say that it doesn't always work like that.

People also defend companies or system that lack transparancy, things like not publishing annual reports etc

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