Humans specifically only were successful because of pack hunting. We died quickly in nature as individuals. Anarcho-capitalism rejects this need for each other replaced with the unsound idea that each individual can handle everything on their own.

Works great until you break your fucking ankle and realize nobody decided being a doctor was important or the only person with medical skills has decided they don't want to do business with you.

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The ironic thing is that they because successful because of civilization and pack mentality, but are so conceited, they think all that infrastructure (public roads, doctors, restaurants, etc) exists simply because they exist. It's weirdly how toddlers see the universe, and why tantrums between the two groups are so similar.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Nor weird at all. It requires a social and emotional maturation process to occur before an adult can appreciate the golden rule. When this developmental process fails you have a chronological adult who is developmentally immature. One of the technical names used to refer to this outcome is narcissism. Such people have prominent narcissistic traits.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the old "you don't find libertarians in poor countries with bad infrastructure" trope.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Wouldn’t that be the cartels’ upper echelon?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

Kropotkin identified mutual aid as a key factor in evolution, not only but especially in humans

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[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's literally just libertarianism under a new and more descriptive name.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism (strictly defined as the private ownership of the means of production) can’t exist without the premise of private property being protected by laws that are collectively agreed upon, enforced, and adjudicated by peers within your community.

This implies that any capitalist society is compatible with democracy, as in, "the will of the masses controls society" and not as in "you get to vote for genocidal liberal who will make us richer, or genocidal fascist who will make us richer"

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Capitalism is an economic system, while democracy is a political system.

Economics is politics. The two are intertwined in every practical regard.

To repeat myself a bit, my argument is that capitalism can’t exist without collective agreements on legislation, enforcement, and adjudication, along with strong protections for an individual’s rights.

This is ahistorical. Colonialism does not require consensus or respect for individual rights and is a central feature of any capitalist system that is successful enough.

If you believe that supposed self-described “socialists”, “communists”, “leftists”, and other “cHaMpIoNs Of tHe PeOpLe” have never been or are incapable of being genocidal maniacs, please promptly fuck your own face with your tankie butt-plug and jump off the nearest cliff.

Oh yeah, socialists have done some horrible things. They pale in scale to the crimes of capitalism. The British empire, the nazi empire, the American empire. Socialism is a less violent system but that doesn't mean that violence stops.

I will never entertain any authoritarian of whatever economic stripe or their apologists for even a nanosecond.

If you support capitalism you literally support an informal caste system where a small caste owns the collective accumlated fruits of labor of the whole human race stretching back to the start of agriculture, where any attempt to change the state of affairs that has any chance of success gets jakarta methoded. That is much more authoritarian than a red terror.