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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by avater@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world
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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Kind of a random though but do you think we will ever see shows done in a more connected way? I mean as of now, all the shows are always done in secret. Why not involve fans in the process? Publish videos from the set as you film and get feedback? Publish scripts, test footage and so on. Yes, the element of surprise would be lost but wouldn't it be nice to see how the show is made and they see the final product? And maybe even influence it a little bit? I would love something like that. What do you think?

Edit: interesting. Looks like only I would be interested in seeing how a show is made.

[–] NessD@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The only reason we watch shows is to get the story. Being spoiled ruins the whole idea of the show. Besides: Even though some showrunners miss the mark, most of the fans ideas of what might come instead are mostly terrible.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago

There's evidence that people like stuff just as much even if they know what's gonna happen, kind of like how placebos often work even if you tell the person.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

People rewatch movies because they love them.

I'm about to watch the final episode of the One Piece adaptation, even though I know exactly what has happened.

The adaptation has deviated slightly from the manga, but that's to be expected of a series known for filler.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I don't know. In the age of remakes, reboots and huge franchises can we really say that we watch shows for the story? Is any of the Marvel movies about the story? You always now how it will end. If you read the script of Guardians of the Galaxy would it really spoil the movie? I think those movies are actually more about 'being involved'. Same as Star Trek or Star Wars. It's about following, being a fan. Story is the weakest part of those movies. It's all about CGI, action sequences and 'fan stuff' like callbacks, references and so on. I think showing what's happening on the green screen wouldn't actually spoil anything and would be really interesting to the fans.

And regarding fans ideas Sonic comes to mind. They released the trailer, fans complained and it got fixed.

But I not saying that all the shows should be made like this. For some (most?) I wouldn't work. I'm just saying... wouldn't it be interesting to see the entire process for a show like this?

[–] hybridhavoc@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah the last thing these shows need are a bunch of armchair experts chipping in.

[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Ackshully, those experts are statistically far more likely to be sitting in an office chair or a gaming chair than an arm chair.

*pushes glasses WAAAAY up nose*

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

So you want to be like those execs that interferes with the production of the show/movie?

[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Same reason I don't ask people what they think about my work while I'm doing it, it's a pain in the ass.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No not really. There's a reason you hire experts to do a job and I for instance hates it if someone try's to explain to me, a designer, what a good design is...

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

the nipple is the only good design

everything after that is artifice.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But we have early access video games. You can start playing when it's in alfa, give feedback. Is it really that bad for creators?

[–] slowd0wn@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Developers don’t use early access to get feedback on lore, world-building and visual aesthetic. They get feedback on gameplay balance and bugs. A movie/TV studio doesn’t have gameplay, it’s all visual. Apples to oranges comparison

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 11 months ago

Yes but aren't game developer experts on gameplay balance? Why would they listen to feedback from some amateurs? It's the same with movies. People who designed Sonic for the movie were also experts, right? Yet they listed to feedback.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I never do it. I play games when they are finished

[–] calabast@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I think part of why creators don't include fans in the process is to avoid the possibility of a lawsuit like "I said there should be a super-mutant/brotherhood of steel secret relationship, and they used my idea! I'm entitled to money!"

Maybe 🤷‍♂️