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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"Unilateral sanctions on Israel won't work because the West will supply whatever Israel needs"

That's hard to argue with, unless china copies the western sanctions regime where you're completely cut off from interacting with the chinese economy and products if you trade with israel, and even then the theory would be that, say, europe wouldn't drop china in order to keep toeing the US line

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Also if China tried to flex that kind of power I find it hard to believe the US wouldn't start a war over that either. The US is itching to pull the trigger and I will not fault anyone who is trying to avoid war, especially knowing it would be a horrific WW3 situation

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There is no war with China, a nuclear armed state.

A US-China hot war would end in about 45 minutes, with the total destruction of both civilizations. And it literally does not have the supply chain for self-sufficiency if China simply stops exporting its treats to the US.

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A US-China hot war would end in about 45 minutes, with the total destruction of both civilizations.

The US political class is filled with Sinophobic Evangelical freaks who think they'll go to heaven. They do not give two shits about civilization if it means they can exterminate the Chinese on the way out. There's a Dulles bros-era memo about the US nuking China should the US go to war with the Soviet Union and the US political class has become much more unhinged since then. "We're no longer number one, so we're taking the goddamn [Chinese ethnic slur]s with us" is a legitimate train of thought. It doesn't mean we should never take any risks (dare to struggle, dare to win), but to handwave it away as an impossibility is just another form of cope.

Should China do what you think they should do, China will do a great deal of work to humanity, but China will also pay a price. And this isn't a political or economic price. It's a human price that can only be paid in blood. Are the Chinese people ready to pay that price? Are you ready to pay that price?

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You are talking about a time when China was extremely poor and far weaker than what it is today. The China between those two eras are not comparable at all.

And you underestimate the Chinese libs’ ability, ever since the PRC has entered this marriage of convenience with the US, to convince the latter of its indispensability in whatever plan the US has for itself.

Trump tried very hard to decouple from China, and the more he does, the more he finds the US unable to do so. I’ve said it before and I will say it again: there will be a rapprochement between the US and China simply because of such material factors. The two cannot live without the other, and that gives China a lot of leverage.

Are you ready to pay that price?

Nearly half a million Chinese volunteers died fighting in Korea, without whose sacrifices the modern state of China would not have survived. Do you seriously think that Chinese people aren’t taught about their own history and know nothing about sacrifices?

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago

Nearly half a million Chinese volunteers died fighting in Korea, without whose sacrifices the modern state of China would not have survived. Do you seriously think that Chinese people aren’t taught about their own history and know nothing about sacrifices?

They died for the sake of China, not for the sake of Korea. I personally do not think most Chinese people would be willing to put their lives at risk for the sake of Palestinians and Iranians. Your outline of economic warfare by China against the West would almost certainly lead to reprisal against the Chinese people. If you aren't convinced by the plausibility of nuke, there's always sabotage. Blown up factories, bridges rigged with explosives, poisoned food supplies, etc. China's internal security isn't so great that a truck with drones can't sneak its way in like what happened in Russia and Iran. The main difference is that Russia and Iran are fighting an active war with a populace that understands it will have to pay a human price while China is officially still a neutral bystander.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 3 points 17 hours ago

I don't think the US would start a hot war over that, what they would do is take the opportunity to try to completely cut off china from the world economy, which, if it works, could prompt china to start something drastic