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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] iie@hexbear.net 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

sounds like Trump is not a loose cannon, but rather a heavily coached puppet

*Hypothetically, if Trump's militarized crackdowns on immigration was an intelligent project of the empire, and not a Trump whim, what would be the aim of them? Personally, when I look at the masked paramilitaries, the detention centers and black sites, the crackdown on university protest, the stoking of domestic far-right militants and terrorists, I see a preemptive effort to get ahead of expected mass unrest beyond what's currently happening. If that's true, it makes me wonder what the expected cause of that unrest is. The immigration crackdown seems like a pretense, since millions were already being deported. Are we headed for a big war, or is it mainly laying the groundwork for fascist defense of capital as economic conditions in the US deteriorate, or both?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

It's partly Project Esther, a Heritage Foundation plan to kill criticism of Israel. https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2024-10/Project%20Esther.pdf

Keep in mind that ICE tends to focus particularly on left-leaning immigrants first.

Excerpt (note HSO is their acronym for Hamas Support Organization, which is any group that opposes Israel):

spoilerDE1: HSO propaganda purged from curricula.

l DE2: HSO-supporting faculty and/or staff removed or fired.

l DE3: HSO access to campuses lost and/or denied.

| DE4: Foreign members of HSOs/HSN access to campuses lost and/or denied.

l DE5: Money from foreign HSO supporters not accepted by schools.

l DE6: HSOs unable to raise revenue.

l DE7: HSOs unable to transfer money to Hamas.

l DE8: Congressional “Hamas Caucus” marginalized.

l DE9: Executive branch presented with undeniable evidence of HSOs’ criminal activity.

l DE10: Social media no longer allow the spread of antisemitic content.

l DE11: HSOs’ voice/access to propaganda dissemination mechanisms lost.

l DE12: HSOs cannot/unwilling to communicate with each other.

l DE13: HSOs unable to coordinate action. l DE14: Permits for HSOs to protest or demonstrate are restricted and/or denied.

l DE15: People are unwilling to join demonstrations.

l DE16: Foreign HSO leadership no longer present in U.S.

l DE17: Preponderance of Jewish community perceives HSOs as a threat to their safety.

l DE18: Preponderance of broader American public perceives HSOs as a threat to their safety and a functioning society.

l DE19: Critical vulnerabilities targeted.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The virulently anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, and anti-American groups comprising the so-called pro-Palestinian movement inside the United States are exclu- sively pro-Palestine and—more so—pro-Hamas. They are part of a highly organized, global Hamas Support Network (HSN) and therefore effectively a terrorist support network

lmao we can't even get organized WITHIN our other mutual aid groups or orgs, how the hell would anyone in the US really pull that off. Same shit as the Antifa scare during the George Floys uprisings, just under a different name. It also feels like we are very much oscillating between I DE9 - I DE 14 right now. With things popping off in Iran, however, I feel that it will be very difficult for the rest of the plan to go as expected.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Side note but good god they are fighting actual fucking ghosts. Hamas Support Network? Hamas Support Organisations? It reads like scientologist slop

[–] iie@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago

I think it might be worded for public consumption