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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 months ago

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Literally never even implied that. I'm sorry that your political education was limited to watching marvel movies with battles between good and evil.

Ukraine, a relatively weak country, joined NATO, it wouldn’t make a massive difference to the capabilities of NATO.

On the contrary, it would. Allowing western military infrastructure on an indefensible border would have been a catastrophic strategic error.

Also, kind of amazing to see liberal now hyping up Russian military capabilities when earlier in the war, they were calling it a "gas station with nukes". Maybe the threat of these "advanced military capabilities" should have played a role in the political calculations of sending Ukrainians into an unwinnable war.

The reason some Ukrainians want to join NATO is because of the very real existential threat that Russia has posed to the state of Ukraine.

There was no such strategic or existential threat in the aftermath of the cold war where the west basically lotted and puppeteered Russia. Even putin had naively tried to join nato believing that this would alleviate western attempts at putting military pressure on Russia back in 2008 or 7, don't remember the exact year.