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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If you don't have a gun yet, now might be the time.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What we really need is the gangs to step in and protect thier territory from ICE. They have networks of people who can hide them if they get identified. And good luck to the agents who come and try to arrest them. The cycle will just build and build.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Hadn't really considered gangs... I wonder if this will drive them into some unity. If they got over the whole red vs blue bullshit or racial focus, their combined force would be one to be reckoned with.

...fucking sad when literal gang violence is being floated as a plausible solution to active tyranny.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

If America goes to war with Mexico, I think may very well have Cartel forces stalking Republicans in Texas. We live in a world of possibilities, ones that shouldn't have been plausible even a year ago.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Apparently the cripts have gotten more diverse. Probably because that generational wealth gap has started to fade away.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

What happens when you starting dropping ICE agents?

Genuinely curious, as an outsider it seems your right to bare arms to protect again the government is ridiculous. Your government has warships, fighter jets, and drones.

Seems at best you could maybe do some insurgent warfare, but I don’t think you’ll be overthrowing the government with guns.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

You're question shows exactly why the west (especially the US) has such an issue doing anything in the modern day. Everyone asks "what can I do" not "what can we do."

What happens the first time? You're probably killed, and if not you're caught and sentenced as if it's illegal (even though it probably isn't in most states if they don't identify and don't present a warrant). Maybe you can kill them and ghost if you're incredibly lucky, and disappear somewhere.

What happens the hundredth time people do this? They start getting scared of acting and more people are encouraged to take action. Maybe they start coming down even harder, but that will just drive people to even more action. If that happens then they eventually lose. They have to maintain authority. Authority is not the default state. If they lose it then they're done.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The goal wouldn't be to overthrow the government - like you said, a .38 special isn't going to do shit against an air strike; but it could do shit against like 1 or 2 ICE agents who are trying to violate your human rights. The goal would be to incapacitate them so that you can disappear and get to safety. Worse case scenario the attempt at self defense fails and you get killed on the spot; you're looking at getting sent to a literal death camp anyway for complying, so might as well try to take a few pop shots and gtfo before they have a chance to get your ID.

The escalation from there, as a few others have mentioned, is guerrilla warfare. We're still no match for the full force of the government, but if the government wants to go full Nazi, the people can go ahead and go full Inglorious Basterds. I wouldn't expect anyone to just bend over and accept their death at the hands of fascism. Fight back.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

It may not be as much as we like or hope for, but 100% of the military is not going to comply if things come to that.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Taliban, Vietcong have both beaten the US goverment in the past and recently. Despite not having access to the same level of weapons and other tech.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago

They also had homefield advantage which an American rebel group will not have.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Your house in the suburbs is an easy target and one in the boonies is an easier one.

Hard to organize an armed resistance when you're so spread out and your best cover is made of drywall.

Though I do love your username

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My point being the us fucking sucks dick and balls at combating against gorilla warfare. And I'm willing to bet the eu would help (at least a small amount, perhaps with training if not by suppling arms) if an organized resistance were to ask nicely.

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

EU won't risk such a thing if the US is unlikely to collapse.

The only and I do mean only scenario I see an armed resistance succeeding in toppling ghe government is if a decent chunk of the military sides with it and partakes in the insurrection

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The us tends to get tired and pull out of any war it starts particularly gorilla wars; why would this be any different?

[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago

Iraq and Afghanistan.