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ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON, May 8 (Reuters) - A top Chinese-made Pakistani fighter plane shot down at least two Indian military aircraft on Wednesday, two U.S. officials told Reuters, marking a major milestone for Beijing's advanced fighter jet.

An Indian Air Force spokesperson said he had no comment when asked about the Reuters report.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wow, hindutva in the Fediverse. That's new.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The points raised about Pakistan are true though. The government has always been pro-terrorism.

Modi is a piece of shit and is honestly an embarrassment for India. One of India's strengths was relative tolerance of cultural diversity and a strong commitment to democracy (something you don't often see with relatively poor countries).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pakistan is a nation of terrorists, which is why they hid bin ladin. They get what they deserve.

-Them. Do you get what I mean? Whatever problems Pakistan may have—and however democratic India might be—doesn't excuse lobbing rockets at mosques. Also what's that about them being pro-terrorism?

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be so quick to portray the strike as solely a bombing of religious institutions. I don't know which exact Mosque India hit and what its background is, but the situation is a bit more complex than you describe.

Many of the mosques in Pakistan are little more than extremist training camps and arguably have little to do with Islam. This isn't unique to Pakistan, from living in the US, I got the impression that many Christian "churches" are more like corruption/tax fraud schemes and/or fronts for enabling political corruption.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many of the mosques in Pakistan are little more than extremist training camps and arguably have little to do with Islam.

Got a source for that? Because according to Pakistan 31 civilians, including at least two children, were killed in the strike, and while I'm not one to take belligerents' words at face value these numbers are hard to fake.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article you cited states:

The compound was founded in 1988 by Hafiz Saeed, the founder of Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), a charity organisation widely considered to be a front for the LeT. The compound’s seminary, Jamia Dawa Islami, was also named after the group.

This wasn't a random mosque. It clearly had links to a terrorist organisation. The interviewees claim the place wasn't tied to terrorism, but I am not convinced.

Note how they never explicitly mention what exactly they teach.

The broad spread of extremism in Pakistan's mosques and their use by terrorist/Islamist groups is widely documented (just search it).

Note I can't stand Mohdi and I think he is an embarrassment for India, but that doesn't mean I am going to ignore the how fucking crazy Pakistani Islamists are (and that all Pakistani governments have supported and nurtured violent Islamist movements as long as they didn't directly challenge the government).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

This wasn't a random mosque. It clearly had links to a terrorist organisation. The interviewees claim the place wasn't tied to terrorism, but I am not convinced.

Read the article again. It was taken over by the government in 2019. The guy who founded JuD was, again as stated in the article, arrested in 2019 and imprisoned for financing terrorism.

The interviewees claim the place wasn't tied to terrorism, but I am not convinced.

So you simply want to believe that the mosque was used by terrorists.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nope, secular atheist from the US.

But Pakistan is a plague, they support terrorism for fun, they supported the worst terrorist in history while pretending to help find him.

Everybody should be anti-Pakistan as a matter of course.

[–] yankextinkt@lemmy.cafe -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Who's the worst terrorist in history?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

Bin ladin killed many thousands, good luck beating his kill count.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can I be anti-everyone involved?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -3 points 2 days ago

I mean, that's fine.

I don't hate India because they actually were fairly progressive in the past, even if they're backsliding now.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You've been spewing hindutva shit throughout this thread so if you claim to not be a Hindu nationalist then stop carrying water for fascists. You sound like Zionists trying to "prove" that Israel should be allowed to genocide Gazans.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm not pro-hindu at all.

But fuck Pakistan, fuck them to death.

Btw, it's funny you mention zionism.

Becauae Pakistan expelled or massacred their Hindus worse than the dreams of Israel.

Also: "Everybody I disagree with is a zionist." lemmy's favorite game.

[–] yankextinkt@lemmy.cafe 0 points 14 hours ago

"Fuck them to death"

Charming.

[–] nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Not only Hindus. Their treatment of Ahmadis is deplorable. They can't vote (unless they declare themself to be non Muslim). They can't pray in public, quote the Quran or pray in regular mosques. They aren't considered Muslim. The constitution itself discriminates against them.