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I have heard about Bangladesh.
It used to be part of Pakistan actually.
Pakistan was so fascist (basically military juntas all the way down) that Bangladesh rebelled and took its independence.
Bhutto was executed for this, and his daughter was later assassinated just for fun.
They supported the taliban and are why the taliban took back control and brutally subjugated all the women again.
Note how there are no Hindu communities in Pakistan, because during paritition they were expelled or massacred.
There are nearly as many Muslims in India than in Pakistan (200m VS 240m).
India is literally the only democracy around.
Pakistan is a nation of terrorists, which is why they hid bin ladin. They get what they deserve.
Wow, hindutva in the Fediverse. That's new.
The points raised about Pakistan are true though. The government has always been pro-terrorism.
Modi is a piece of shit and is honestly an embarrassment for India. One of India's strengths was relative tolerance of cultural diversity and a strong commitment to democracy (something you don't often see with relatively poor countries).
-Them. Do you get what I mean? Whatever problems Pakistan may have—and however democratic India might be—doesn't excuse lobbing rockets at mosques. Also what's that about them being pro-terrorism?
I wouldn't be so quick to portray the strike as solely a bombing of religious institutions. I don't know which exact Mosque India hit and what its background is, but the situation is a bit more complex than you describe.
Many of the mosques in Pakistan are little more than extremist training camps and arguably have little to do with Islam. This isn't unique to Pakistan, from living in the US, I got the impression that many Christian "churches" are more like corruption/tax fraud schemes and/or fronts for enabling political corruption.
Got a source for that? Because according to Pakistan 31 civilians, including at least two children, were killed in the strike, and while I'm not one to take belligerents' words at face value these numbers are hard to fake.
The article you cited states:
This wasn't a random mosque. It clearly had links to a terrorist organisation. The interviewees claim the place wasn't tied to terrorism, but I am not convinced.
Note how they never explicitly mention what exactly they teach.
The broad spread of extremism in Pakistan's mosques and their use by terrorist/Islamist groups is widely documented (just search it).
Note I can't stand Mohdi and I think he is an embarrassment for India, but that doesn't mean I am going to ignore the how fucking crazy Pakistani Islamists are (and that all Pakistani governments have supported and nurtured violent Islamist movements as long as they didn't directly challenge the government).
Read the article again. It was taken over by the government in 2019. The guy who founded JuD was, again as stated in the article, arrested in 2019 and imprisoned for financing terrorism.
So you simply want to believe that the mosque was used by terrorists.
Nope, secular atheist from the US.
But Pakistan is a plague, they support terrorism for fun, they supported the worst terrorist in history while pretending to help find him.
Everybody should be anti-Pakistan as a matter of course.
Who's the worst terrorist in history?
Bin ladin killed many thousands, good luck beating his kill count.
Can I be anti-everyone involved?
I mean, that's fine.
I don't hate India because they actually were fairly progressive in the past, even if they're backsliding now.
You've been spewing hindutva shit throughout this thread so if you claim to not be a Hindu nationalist then stop carrying water for fascists. You sound like Zionists trying to "prove" that Israel should be allowed to genocide Gazans.
I'm not pro-hindu at all.
But fuck Pakistan, fuck them to death.
Btw, it's funny you mention zionism.
Becauae Pakistan expelled or massacred their Hindus worse than the dreams of Israel.
Also: "Everybody I disagree with is a zionist." lemmy's favorite game.
"Fuck them to death"
Charming.
Not only Hindus. Their treatment of Ahmadis is deplorable. They can't vote (unless they declare themself to be non Muslim). They can't pray in public, quote the Quran or pray in regular mosques. They aren't considered Muslim. The constitution itself discriminates against them.
Literally wtf are you trying to say here? Yeah, Bangladesh was Pakistan once but that was decades and decades ago. It's not at all relevant anymore today.
True, but recently, Taliban is breaking ties with Pakistan and creating ties with India. Might wanna read this and this. Also India supported the brutal fascism in Bangladesh, but that gets a pass, I guess?
Not entirety true, 2% of their population is still Hindu. And yeah, they are also not in great shape. But India is doing the same with their minorities. Why are you blaming only one but not the other?
Yeah, but not quite. India's democracy has been backsliding hard
Ah yes. They hid bin Laden in back in 11, so Pakistan, their entire nation and population are still terrorists now. Meanwhile ignore all of India's wrong doings.
I don't wanna devolve this thread into whataboutism, so the bottom line, both countries are shits. I don't know much about Pakistan's politics now but democratically it's not good yes. But India right now is a literal segregating fascist state.
Pakistan has actually been democratizing these past few years, so at this rate they'll be more of a democracy than India.
Yeah ok, I guess that's a good thing?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistan-rape-rapist-released-agreement-marry-victim/
Lemmy is pro-trans, pro-muslim, but amazingly anti-woman which is always odd.
As opposed to India, the beacon of women’s rights. We just don’t like hatemongering
Compared to Pakistan, yes it is a beacon of women's rights.
They literally supported the taliban, it's hard to go any lower for any country.
India literally, present tense, supports the taliban.
Nope, that's a lie.
They spent $3b on schools and aid while the taliban were out of power.
In doing so they created markets for wheat and medicine, supplies the Afghans desperately need.
Whats happening is they're continuing to supply those goods to the people of Afghanistan.
But please try to rewrite history, as Pakistan literally gave them the weapons they used to retake Afghanistan.
They not only held Bin Laden in 2011, but brought back Sajad Mir from the dead in 2022. He was one of the key conspirators of the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Look up how Pakistan first denied he existed, then denied he was alive, and then finally brought him back from the dead after 14 years.