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[โ€“] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you see instances who's main purpose is to represent "people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right" that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?

If you're browsing all you frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I'm yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.

(I couldn't even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they're not nearly as active as Hexbear.)

Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they're more common than on others.

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's called most of the internet. ๐Ÿคท

What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.

Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)

Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.

[โ€“] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

People should not be bullied, but opinions and believes are not free of criticism.

I mean, just read the comments on this:

https://hexbear.net/post/618701

https://hexbear.net/post/44995

https://hexbear.net/post/375644

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's called most of the internet. ๐Ÿคท

What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.

Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)

Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.

[โ€“] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner.

About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities

it's more about their toxic behaviour

This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don't mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.

Their political views are less of an issue

Thank you for admitting it's about the optics (which is not a concern for us)

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don't mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.

It's easy, you guys direct it at anyone that doesn't instantly adopt your worldview.

I literally had your people calling me a bigot for saying that being transgender is, ideally, a temporary state.

The implication being they finish transitioning and end up whatever.

I was literally called a bigot for accepting trans people in my own way. Some of ya'll are fucking rabid, and you absolutely will turn people against you. People that would normally not really care whether or not someone is trans.

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of yall are fucking rabid

So are 90% of capitalists but y'all don't bat an eye at that ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know you are but what am I?

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, yes I call out billionaire worshipping shitlords. I'm just sound enough of mind to understand that communism is far too idealistic to ever actually be accomplished.

There isn't a single revolution that hasn't ended with a new upper class taking over from the old one, therefore perpetuating the cycle of inequality. Hexbearians happily ignore this about revolution, effectively behaving as if the human element of greed will just magically evaporate with a new world order. Any system of governance that doesn't take into account human weakness is a worthless system of governance.

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you gleefully attack anybody trying to do anything about to protect billionaires are their status. ๐Ÿคท

Just another 2023 "Centrist" who doesn't want the stigma of the right wing but only ever spends time going after one side because "only the right wing works"

I didn't think anything bad of you until you HAD to make the clarification. If you have a compelling need to go out of your way and loudly pronounce that you do something - you don't do it. Nobody's buying it buddy, you're just another right winger and nobody cares.

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yikes, stay on hexbear troglodyte.

Toxic behavior towards normal people who don't share their flawed beliefs.

[โ€“] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And who exactly do we talk in a demeaning and insulting manner to? What is that the people we respond to that way say?

No one who posts this kind of civilty or optics concerns about our behaviour ever mentions that.

If you're more offended by our responses than the things we push back against you deserve to be offended

[โ€“] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving their point.

Nobody deserves to be offended, and the things you push back against isn't as much of a problem as the way you go about it.

Civility isn't in Hexbears vocabulary.

[โ€“] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I agree! If only slaves thought to ask nicely for their freedom, they would have just been granted it! Civility is indeed the way!

We get that they're toxic, but most people are. Their genocide denial is far more problematic imo.

Though I have seen them myself and their trolling, vote brigading and harassment is really awful.