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All I've seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. π€·
Sorry y'all can't adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.
EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.
EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC π
For me it was the brain dead disgusting coments they make about Ukraine and the war.
The ones about how America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
Yes that's one of the disgusting ones. So naive and stupid. These hexbear people are degrading Ukrainians like they have no agency for themselves, like they have no wants and motivations as a nation and individuals. With these disgusting statements they are demeaning their fight and their lives. On the other hand there is the caricature America that somehow like an evil shaman, directs others into doing their bidding. Grotesque.
They forgot to mention that the reason Ukrainians don't have agency is because the West is turning them gay:
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/08/putins-adviser-says-u-s-is-using-brainwashing-to-make-gay-ukrainian-super-soldiers/
Why not discuss your perspective on the international news megathread
Quite the brain dead comment right here.
You mean our informed comments that actually value the lives of Ukrainians?
natocels stay mad
No I mean your disgusting uninformed coments that don't value life at all and make fun out of people that are fighting for their lives.
Per the other reply to you, you might recall when I went over our consensus perspective on Ukraine, how it is motivated by understanding the best possible outcome for Ukrainian lives and contrasting this with the bloodthirsty liberal approach you've supported (all dressed up in "concern").
Is it the "uninformed" and life-devaluing comments you're referring to?
Tell me, what was your reply to that explanation?
On that topic, it's been 20 days and you still haven't managed to produce an answer; what are the "bizzare arguments" from hexbears, and how have they been "debunked so many times" ?
Oh, maybe read the comments again. It's the classics :
You have nothing. You just repeat these dumb bizzare debunked claims that are illogical not only false. And it's become very boring.
And you are trolling me again, aren't you? Because you can't be that dumb, can you?
If it was me I would simply not die for a country thst didn't appreciate me. Follow your bliss I guess tho
Have you done so many brain gymnastics that you think you genuinely care about the lives of Ukrainians, or are you aware that you're lying for political points?
In what way do you actually value Ukrainian lives?
I lost any support for them when I saw them cheering the idea that North Korea should be able to nuke other countries as they all cheered happily "Death to America" with heart emojis like there would be no mass suffering and a complete lack of critical thought of what enabling bullies means for the suffering they are wanting to happen.
They are scared idiots who think appeasing bullies means they will have an easier life and not have to think about how bad things sometimes just have to happen because not everyone is good at heart.
Then they cover it with false claim that they support all people and they only support communism because of how it would support everyone equally.
If you actually care about people you don't root for suffering and hurting and you definitely don't wave flags for the bullies just cause it's an easier answer. Life isn't so easy and they don't want to hear it.
Just try to engage in a good-faith conversation with them. They love to shut that shit down with their weird image spams. And the poop. Like literal images of poop, to scare people off, or something. I really don't get it.
The poop thing has sort of turned into a weird inside joke or virtue signal or something. Sort of like how in the dark ages of the pre-internet Era, nerds would quote LotR and Hitchhiker's Guide at each other to signal that they are nerds and are therefore of one heart and mind
I think what you are supposed to do is take their shit posts in stride and then shit post back at them. Which I'm not fucking doing.
You really weren't there or had a very different experience than me. I mean, I guess by "very different," I mostly mean we actually quoted Monty Python and Star Wars.
Who are you, to be so wise in the ways of science?
Precisely
I wasn't there, I just listen when people talk. But the point is the virtue signaling. Most social groups have a shibboleth to signal that they are part of the in-group. It's sort of the inverse of how cult-like spaces will shun a specific thing that The Evil Outsiders have a casual relationship with, like strict veganism or strictly not using anything which functions similar to profanity
It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.
that and the stupid image emojis
You have sources on that first bit lol? Iβm not sure what youβre talking about.
Unless youβre meaning jokes about fascist voters falling down a manhole or something?
Always fun to see accusations with no link and speculate on what actually happened.
Also they called me a nerd
And then... And then they called me a lib and everyone pointed and laughed at me!
So many tantalizingly omitted details!
Death to America
The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.
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I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. π€·
Do you see instances who's main purpose is to represent "people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right" that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?
If you're browsing
allyou frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I'm yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.(I couldn't even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they're not nearly as active as Hexbear.)
Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they're more common than on others.
Yeah, it's called most of the internet. π€·
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
Yeah, it's called most of the internet. π€·
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don't mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.
Thank you for admitting it's about the optics (which is not a concern for us)
It's easy, you guys direct it at anyone that doesn't instantly adopt your worldview.
I literally had your people calling me a bigot for saying that being transgender is, ideally, a temporary state.
The implication being they finish transitioning and end up whatever.
I was literally called a bigot for accepting trans people in my own way. Some of ya'll are fucking rabid, and you absolutely will turn people against you. People that would normally not really care whether or not someone is trans.
And who exactly do we talk in a demeaning and insulting manner to? What is that the people we respond to that way say?
No one who posts this kind of civilty or optics concerns about our behaviour ever mentions that.
If you're more offended by our responses than the things we push back against you deserve to be offended
We get that they're toxic, but most people are. Their genocide denial is far more problematic imo.
Though I have seen them myself and their trolling, vote brigading and harassment is really awful.
They openly deny the Tianamen Square massacre happened.
You've only seen class consciouss shit? I'm very sorry you haven't seen more of our sick emojis
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emoji spam
I do hate these, are they supposed to take up a whole screens worth of blank space each or is that my Connect app being weird about it.
It's unintended and it's why I've been hesitant to post emojis on other instances. It's why I used spoiler tags.
They're not supposed to be so big. They look more normal sized on Hexbear. I'm told some Lemmy devs are working on a fix for it soon.
Fair enough then, alas it doesn't seem Connect app reads markdown.
EDIT: oh sure it works when I talk shit about it. Still though, your spoiler didn't so maybe only some comes through. Idk.