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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is a rare console W over PC. All your games are just there. No additional launchers or log ins, no waiting 30 minutes for the game to update because you havnt opened that launcher in months.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but then you have to use a controller like a chump.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They're capable of supporting mouse and keyboard. For some reason most games just don't. Like on my PS5, anything that uses a mouse style menu, I can use a mouse to operate. I can also use a keyboard to type in input boxes with anything. But the only game I can fully play with a M&KB I've tried so far is Call of Duty. Which is nuts because Stellaris, Civilization and City Skylines are on this system, too, and they would very much benefit from full M&KB support.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t have a PS5, but I have a couple Dualsense controllers. Some games BLOW ME AWAY on controller. Returnal with haptics and adaptive triggers? INSANE. I wouldn’t play it with any other control method.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some games are better with a controller. Some PC users prefer controller...

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For certain genres yes.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Games do update when you haven’t played them for a while. At least on Switch.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the point. On consoles they do, on PC they might not if you havnt opened the launcher in a while.

[–] only0218@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't exactly turn off the updater on an console /i.e. the software responsible for launching them games

I really wish tho that steam or similar could update in connected Standby/modern Standby on lowest priority

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is wake your laptop in your messenger bag, update, catch fire and burn your house down while you sleep.

Take it or leave it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole heckin console is your launcher. So now you need another whole box IRL for the other launchers. Be sure to fiddle with your TV's source selection button that for some reason can never work the way we expect.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really how that works, but I get some people have a pathological need to shit on consoles for no reason.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly how that works, but some people have a pathological need to defend their buyer's remorse.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's not, different hardware isn't equivalent to different launchers. Because if it was you could say the same exact thing about PCs.

The point is, on console whether you play a ubisoft game or EA game or Microsoft game, they all are launched from the same native launcher.

And I literally don't even own a modern console and play all my games on PC, so have no buyers remorse. So please stop with this infantile platform war bullshit. I'm assuming you're a grown-ass man, so please act like it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Some things are objectively better and the people defending that which isn't are making my experience worse. I'm gonna talk about it. Deal with it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No additional launchers or log ins, no waiting 30 minutes for the game to update

That happens on consoles all the time. Don't play your modern console (switch or newer) and the same thing happens. I avoid Xbox now because every time I go to play it's a 30 minute wait for system and game updates. -and my Xbox is hardwired Ethernet to 300 mbs service so it's not slow Internet

I even booted up my switch before family visiting on Thanksgiving because I knew it would want an update. At least Switch was nice by making it optional.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah no shit it doesn't update games when it's powered off?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you can't complain that a PC needs updating if you left it turned off for a when when consoles work exactly the same way.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not though. Unless you open every launcher for every game whenever you open you PC then you still have that problem.

If I'm using my xbox regularly than that one game I havnt played in 8 months is going to stay updated. The same isn't true for PCs. I use mine every day, but the other week when I went to load up world of warships for the first time in a while I had a 12gb update because it has its own special launcher, so I just said fuck it and went to a different game.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consoles have exclusives. I much rather download an extra launcher than have to pay $400 for very similar hardware to use their special launcher to play a game. Also, if you have physical games, you have to deal with changing those out. PC, you're already on your PC so you just play the games you wanna play. Also, basically every time I've tried to play something on a playstation with someone, their PS needs and update and the game needs an update. PC games just update without me paying any attention to them on their own.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah I forgot mentioning a good thing about consoles would bring out these people

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Consoles have advantages, but splitting launchers cross different hardware isn't a good thing about them. Its a negative.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they don't that's the whole point.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do. If I want to play one game, then I have to grab the disk and put it in its specific console to play it with its launcher. There's some exceptions, like gamecube games can be played on Wii's using its hardware and launcher. But if I want to the play a PS4 game, I have to switch to that hardware and the PS4 launcher. On PC, at least I can use retroarch as a single unified launcher for many consoles instead of buying several consoles to use each of them as a distinct launcher and steam for most everything else. No switching to the PS# launcher to run some things and the Switch launcher for different games. Even if a game has its own dedicated launcher on PC (probably enough reason for me to not bother playing), its still better than having to physically swap hardware to use its launcher.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It really is just an innate need isn't it?

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another big win is game licences work for anyone using the console for all games. While some PC publishers require each individual user to buy another copy of the game in order to keep separate profiles. Looking at you, Ubisoft

[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Microsoft stopped short on PCs with their store.

If you're a parent, you can create a family group with your Microsoft account. Add each child's Microsoft account under yours. Purchase the game on your account. Login to your account on your childs PC to install it. Log out and then login to your childs account. They'll be able to play it.

Limitations? They will not have access to any DLC. It's limited to one child. If you have more than one child, too bad.