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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes... It's because of the few loud-mouthed, salty, misogynists that men are generally lonely.

Maybe if this wasn't the attitude towards me all the time, there'd be less young boys listening to twats like Andrew Tate.

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Or maybe if there were less young boys listening to Andrew Tate there wouldn't be that attitude towards men?

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That attitude existed before Tate came onto the scene. Try again.

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

True, but that doesn't excuse that he promotes behaviors and thought patterns which reinforces reasons why people have certain attitudes towards men.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Andrew Tate is so successful because there already existed the conditions to radicalise young people for quite some time.

Cult leaders or radical leaders don't have a platform if everyone is just fine. No-one in a healthy environment wakes up in the morning and decides "let's start some hateful shit, because it's just so much fun!"

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can keep digging the trenches if you want. Why do you want to alienate people for the sake of it?

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

I actually do not alienate, but I do criticize when necessary.

I have a close relative who took the red pill and is all in on the manosphere. Sometimes he sends me, and I'm not even kidding, 30 messages in a day about all the manosphere content he watches; but we still hang out and talk. I don't comment on everything he sends me if it is something we have already debated over. If it is something different or something I find to be egregious, I do call him out on it.

To be fair, some days are harder than others to hear his bullshit, and I take a break and mute his messages for a while. I feel overall I still value him as a person and it is important to interact with him. However, I can also empathize with those that want nothing to do with someone who holds those opinions.