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[–] Adrius@ttrpg.network 28 points 6 days ago (8 children)

This is just a toxic gender wars meme. Go outside, touch some grass, meet someone nice and move on with life. Memes like this come from and perpetuate the loneliness epidemic.

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[–] gens@programming.dev 35 points 6 days ago

Memes is now shitting on genders ? Y'all fuckers don't know shit about empathy, and about memes either.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Boys are taught to ignore emotions (“are you crying? Man up!”)

But emotions is what connects humans (and animals for that matter) and can’t really be ignored anyway

Join the two… and you get loneliness, frustration, rage.

We should start a conversation on emotional education (not only for boys but especially for boys)

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Because nobody wants men to be emotional. When I started opening up is when my marriage started falling apart lol

[–] SparroHawc@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

If opening up is what caused the marriage to fall apart, it was built on a broken foundation and was doomed from the start. You're only finding out now because emotional unavailability hides that sort of thing.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah happens even before marriage.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I ain't ever showing emotions again except to a paid professional lmao.

Most women want someone very emotionally stable

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Lol maybe talk to nicer women?

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ah, the classic generalization of men and women as singular groups where everyone acts as one.

There are certain shitty men who objectify women and play alphas. There is the general category of men who get shitted at because of it, whether they belong to the former or not.

Sure, being afraid of the shitty folks is a valid reason to be cautious around everyone, as you can't easily tell one from the other. But saying that all men just made this stuff up while being total asses wouldn't be fair or helpful.

To be clear: there is a male loneliness epidemic driven by ever increasing caution about men overall. Men are often unfairly denied attention they need because they are seen as potential dangers by women and might be ridiculed for speaking out about their feelings by men (which, in turn, do it to protect themselves from the same treatment in an unhealthy patriarchal culture).

This is not healthy; moreover, being in that state of loneliness and frustration is prone to radicalizing people, making sayings about dangerous men a self-fulfilling prophecy in one case, and just causing a lot of misery in the other.

If you're a woman, I'd suggest giving a bit of attention to the men around you. There is a million of untold stories there, and making someone open up to you for the first time is a great and rewarding experience. Or just...be there, and that will be appreciated.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My wife sometimes stops to compliment me because she knows men don't often receive compliments. I always appreciate that.

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[–] fwdbias@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uh where's the generalization here? The post didn't say "all men" anywhere in it. It's suggesting that people who say the first things lead to saying the later things, leading to their loneliness. Not every man is lonely... but a lot who are make everyone uncomfortable because of the shit they say.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Valid perspective; but I think it's quite clearly implied given the scale of the issue. The male loneliness is real, and shouldn't be written off as shit misogynists say, even if it was popularized by them. This kind of discarding might hurt men who have nothing to do with misogynistic talking points, opinions, or actions.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I don't think the loneliness epidemic is uniquely male though. It's an affliction of this entire generation. There is a specific subset of men that have been radicalized against women as a scapegoat for the loneliness they feel, but the true cause is increasing social alienation driven by capitalism. The specific mechanism not being limited to the commodification of our attention that has been enabled by the advent of high speed internet.

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[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 15 points 6 days ago

Downvoted for being unnecessarily antagonistic.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Are these the same guys that think that eating pussy makes you gay?

It's no fucking wonder they're lonely.

Have they tried not being assholes?

Sopranos confirmed that...never made sense...

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

if the problem is that men have loneliness issues i have a solution.

it's men, more than one, become friends.

is there a issue with modern social alienation caused by individual atomisation? yes.

should we focus on it? yes

does it mean that women owe them sex? fuck no,

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dude I’m lonely because I’m a hypersexual libido chameleon with a long term partner who has a pandas sex drive.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you like football and your best friend doesn’t like football, what do you do? You beg your best friend to play football… but if they really don’t like football or it is just a “once in a while thing” what you do? Probably find another friend or group of friends that like football. Your best friend likely stays your best friend but now you are happy, your best friend is not annoyed by you asking playing football and you have new friends

Of course you don’t hide or lie to your best friend on what you do and when… otherwise they would be (rightfully) upset but if you share and they are mad that you want to have new friends it’s on them to be unreasonable.

Well here Ethical non monogamy in a nutshell in a context where it is socially acceptable 🤷‍♂️

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yes... It's because of the few loud-mouthed, salty, misogynists that men are generally lonely.

Maybe if this wasn't the attitude towards me all the time, there'd be less young boys listening to twats like Andrew Tate.

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Or maybe if there were less young boys listening to Andrew Tate there wouldn't be that attitude towards men?

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That attitude existed before Tate came onto the scene. Try again.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Andrew Tate is so successful because there already existed the conditions to radicalise young people for quite some time.

Cult leaders or radical leaders don't have a platform if everyone is just fine. No-one in a healthy environment wakes up in the morning and decides "let's start some hateful shit, because it's just so much fun!"

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[–] Ifrothgolf@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh man, my eyes are hurting 🫣 with so much toxic ignorance present in this dumb meme!!

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