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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How come they seem to mainly point out issues with the left (or center-left) and also seem to not support Ukraine ...

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hold on just a sec, the Liberals aren't a left wing party, especially not with a banker at its helm! The only way they're considered a center left party is if the Overton window has moved right enough that the Conservatives are considered center right and the PPC is considered to be slightly right and not far right.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

especially not with a banker at its helm

Everyone understands that central banks are not "banks", right? The Bank of Canada and the Bank of England are not, in any meaningful way, similar to the Bank of Nova Scotia.

Mark Carney's work history includes some regular ol' bogey men of the financial sector, but for some reason they never come up. Intead, it's this weird conflation of "Governor of the Bank of Canada/England" and "banker".

Dude oversaw monetary policy for nations during times of national and global financial disasters, not stock portfolios.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

An economist who studied at Harvard and Oxford then. He also worked in investment firms and I'm sorry but you won't become governor of a central bank or a C-suite at Brookfield assets management by being a left wing economist, best case you'll become a college teacher.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An economist who studied at Harvard and Oxford then.

I know you understand that that's not inherently a bad thing, either. I know this because you, rightfully, point out

you won’t become governor of a central bank or a C-suite at Brookfield assets management by being a left wing economist

So, why all of the wildly intellectually dishonest labeling? Why is "banker" being thrown around, when it's not true? And why is the follow-up "PhD economist"?

Dude worked for Goldman Sachs, and y'all are trying to get your panties in a bunch over his doctorate?

That's kind of pathetic, weak sauce, dude.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He studied in universities that train those who rule the world and you don't think that affected his political opinions? Get real buddy, it's all part of what makes him just another Liberal politician that doesn't actually cares the majority because he's got nothing in common with them. His professional experience is just the cherry on top.

Hell, he was the managing director for investment banking at Goldman Sachs, he might not have had the banker title, he just managed them!

From the get go my point has been that with him at the helm the Liberal party will never be considered left wing since he's just another leader from the same schools and professional sector as a bunch of previous ones that dilapidated the welfare state. Prove me wrong.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What is the point of calling him a banker? What agenda are you pushing? Have you even thought about it? Or are you just mouthing dog whistles for fun?

Because whether the have-never-been-a-workers-party Liberals are left-wing or not today really has nothing to to do with Carney's resume, so you're pushing some kind of billshit.

Prove me wrong.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry I used the wrong term to designate a person who used to manage investment bankers, and who worked for two central banks, my point still stands. Are you fucking happy now?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

You're absolutely right. I felt weird writing that and should have said center-right. I think I was trying to be less confusing when I wrote it but it's been a long day.

I'm not thinking straight and the world is stressing me out.