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If you need to use emojis to convey feeling, emotion, or to emphasize your point-
You need to learn more words.
I don't understand what either of those are trying to emote.
Sarcasm vs curiosity
Which is which?
The eye rolling is a sarcasm indicator, the monocle indicates curiosity.
How tf do you derive sarcasm from the first one?
Eye-rolling is commonly associated with sarcasm (and other forms of derision, but in the context sarcasm makes the most sense)
I'm sincerely wondering if some of the emoji hate is people with ASD or something similar not getting common facial expression associations beyond things like smile = happy
I wouldn't be surprised. If you're wondering, yes I'm on the spectrum. But I've also never seen eye-rolling used for sarcasm. It's so much more obvious to make a statement sound insane or to use /s.
Also, would most of the world even interpret that emoji as "eye rolling?"
Eye rolling is definitely a culturally-specific thing with the anglosphere, but the emoji is literally called "eye-roll" and does read visually as being that to someone familiar with the gesture.
The added nuance here is that eye-rolling is an expression of derision and not just sarcasm, while culturally /s is used for being facetious (think friendly sarcasm) as well as actual sarcasm.
You only interpret '\s' as sarcasm because of html and sarcasm beginning with the letter 's'. If you don't think pictorial eye-rolling 'looks' like sarcasm, just consider it almost like hieroglyphs.
Where the hell did you get HTML from? /s is a tag literally made to denote that a given text is sarcastic. It's one of the few good things to come out of Twitter.
...that is much older than Twitter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_indicator
Dang, was it at least popularized on Twitter? I haven't seen /blah anywhere until 2018.
If anything, I would guess probably reddit since it kind of evolved from the early forums where it came from. Twitter has (had?) a much larger userbase though, so that's not a bad guess either. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Bro do you autist
Vroom vroom
Yes brk I autist ๐๐๐๐
Using autist as an insult. Stay classy, Lemmy.
Seems like you autist
Or maybe you can just say:
โSo, whatโs the big deal?โ
Because it means the exact same thing. And has the added benefit of the person youโre speaking with not think youโre a 12 year old kid.
What's wrong with being an expressive 12yo?
What's wrong in the thinking a person who uses emojis is a 12yo ? ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
A lot if youโre not a 12 year old.
When you try too hard to preoccupy yourself with the concept of maturity and performatively try very hard to be The Adult In The Room:
Look, another Hexbear kid with memes everyone! So edgy!!
You, being very not mad at a moving picture for being too accurate when describing your tryhard attempts at "maturity:"
I don't need more words to express something offhanded and casual. ๐คฎ
Seeโฆ thereโs my point. That emoji doesnโt even make sense in context of what you said.
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And thatโs all I need to know to determine that youโre not worth talking to moving forward.
That's a lot of dischill considering the casual and inconsequential nature of this conversation.
Intelligence comes in more forms than just written language. Words can express emotion, but so can dance, painting, singing, even a glance can express so much. Why do you think it needs to stop at emoji's? Your inability to understand what they are saying with that emoji is not a failure of the emoji, but your ability to interpret it. That's like saying dancing doesn't convey emotion because you don't know what it is they are trying to convey. Perhaps you just need to learn more ways of expressing emotions?
I was able to understand the entirely of your misguided point without the use of a single emoji.
Imagine that.
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And thatโs all I need to know to determine that nothing youโll say will be of any interest to me moving forward.
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Text can be ambiguous, if only there were some kind of image that would could reliably it indicate the emotional context of your statements.
You know, like JIF animAted pictures
Human beings have been corresponding for over two thousand years without emojis. Are you seriously trying to tell me that emojis are some sort of ascended form of communication that 12 year old kids have discovered to the ignorance of everything from small businesses to collegiate academics?
Soโฆ you think the written language didnโt exist before the internet?
THE WEST HAS FALLEN
"why use lot word when few word do trick" is a recurring phrase used ironically by my younger staff.
And this hits another topic...
Emotional expression is culturally derived.
A raised eyebrow can mean very different things to different groups. Giving a thumbs up in Turkey or an okay sign in northern Africa will have radically different messages.
I seriously hate emojis.
They tell me nothing except that the sender is too lazy to give me a hint.
Bingpot!