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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure, there are plenty of great reasons to use Signal... like if you want your private messages you've sent linked back to you via a phone number. No tool intended for maximum security is going to require you to provide a phone number, which is incredibly difficult to acquire in the US without some form of KYC metadata. But sure if you've never read Moxie's blog to see he is obviously invested in Israel's agenda, then go ahead.

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What on Earth does Signal requiring phone numbers have to do with Israel?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just keep using it, especially if you plan any protests & maybe you'll find out.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You sound like a lunatic.

"Ohhhh you'll see! I can't tell you what, how, when, or why, but oh will you alllllll see something, someday, somehow!"

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

you would expect that response it from a .ml account

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Right, cause clearly their push to use your biometric phone lock for encryption is so secure. If you at least want some security you won't use the official app but one like Molly that has actual passphrase encryption, automatic locking, memory clearing & Orbot support.

See, now you're actually providing some substance. We're not mind readers, so put up or shut up.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

My signal has never asked for anything biometric. Where is this supposed to be happening?

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I've literally read the code for Signal's double-ratchet protocol. It's extremely high quality cryptography, written in Rust, open source, with several independent audits.

The server code isn't open, but we know they (used to?) use Intel SGX enclaves so the contact metadata is sealed from even the Signal Foundation. Admittedly SGX fell prey to a number of speculative execution attacks, but Signal had no way of foreseeing that.

Also, Moxie hasn't been involved since 2022.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Tox is the most secure messager I know of. Next is Briar. I consider Signal to be on the same level as Telegram.

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

telegram has no usable form of e2ee (and what it does have is opt in only) so no, it is not on the same level as telegram. it is, in fact, ahead of it

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Phone numbers are easy to get for verification. Molly is great i agree.