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I'm a heavy emoji user, texting is such a poor medium for communication, many times people get the wrong message, but with an emoji you'll get an idea of the face I'm making, so less chance of misunderstanding

I noticed that every time I add an emoji to a comment it gets downvoted, so I tested my theory, wrote a comment without an emoji, got upvotes, went back and added an emoji, got downvotes..

On Reddit people use emojis a lot, on Lemmy I NEVER saw anyone use emojis, my account is new but still for the time I spent here, I never saw the use of emojis

So, is it just me, have you noticed this small detail ? and do you miss emojis the way I do ? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

We've come a long way from cave drawings and hieroglyphics. We've developed languages capable of expressing tiny details in amazing clarity; succinctly, pointedly, and without confusion as to their meaning.

And yet there is a whole new wave of people unable to use those languages correctly or even rudimentarily who drag civilization backwards by returning to hieroglyphics.

I'm almost of the opinion we've reached "peak human" and are now backsliding. Yes, of course it's self inflicted - how else could we as a species do an 'about face' and head back to cave dwelling? However it happens and whomever is responsible, here we are... and we're losing ground fast.

And things like emojis are leading the charge.

[โ€“] axont@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I had a jack off hand motion emoji I would post it but you'll have to settle for me simply saying you sound up your own ass

[โ€“] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

::: spoiler big emoji If you have the black background for Lemmy on then the left-unity-2 emoji looks like a red hand jerking a phantom dick

[โ€“] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

big emojijagoff

Was added (yesterday I think), so now you can!

[โ€“] axont@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Greatest day of my life

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See how much more expressive those words were?! Fucking excellent job !

Way to fucking go Bro or Bra !!! Way - to - fucking - go!

Now THAT'S the way to express yourself. It impresses the ladies too.

[โ€“] axont@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer gender neutral terms, please. I'm nonbinary

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

... and all points in between. That should cover "human". And you're definitely that.

[โ€“] ElGosso@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of all the things to get Ted Kaczynski over, emojis is easily the funniest one

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, but it's good to rile up the monkeys every once in a while. Else they sit around jacking and jillies and slipping into the photon coma. Stirs up their blood. Fires a neuron or two.

[โ€“] ElGosso@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

"I was simply pretending" lmao ok

[โ€“] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Language fails us again and again, how often do we have to compare things to other feelings of sensation? Miscommunications? How short do words fall time and time again? A fool believes our words are enough, like a haggard face cant speak volumes with more clarity without a single word being said.

[โ€“] ElGosso@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep thinking about this because it's so fucking funny. "We've invented a way to reintroduce some of the emotional nuance innate in vocal communication and add further symbolic references to text!" "My god, you're an imbecilic caveman! You're destroying civilization!"

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

reintroduce some of the emotional nuance innate in vocal communication

NOOOO THE MOST EUPHORIC REDDIT NEW ATHEISTS MUST CONVEY IRONIC DETACHMENT AND CONTEMPT FOR EMOTION AT ALL TIMES wojak-nooo

[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Emojis represent the backsliding of great human society'

You defeated emojis, because I have no face for this

[โ€“] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably huge if not viewed on Hexbearsmuglord

Might suffice.

[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Something like that!

Also imagine not viewing everything on hexbear badeline-disgust

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"peak human"

"Peak human" is being a Reddit-tier pretentious snob that expresses passive-aggressive contempt for living human beings if they use pictures to communicate.

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your subjectivity is showing. And it's not as wise as you think.

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Your subjectivity is showing. And it's not as wise as you think.

smuglord

Your Spock LARP is showing. And Spock wasn't quite as much of a Redditor as you think you remember.

[โ€“] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

@WhyEssEff@hexbear.net keeps delivering the emoji hits, just in time to dunk on the pompous haters niko-dunk

[โ€“] magi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a 200iq moment, the logic and eloquence is exquisite but like get over yourself or some shit.. smuglord

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah! part of the digression. The digression speaks. Alas, all... the digressions express themselves.

[โ€“] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

whomever is responsible

It's whoever in this case.

Sorry, couldn't resist after a rant like that. :)

By the way, the trick i used i learned from a reddit comment. Whether you use 'who' or 'whom' had to do with whether something is being done by them or to them. The use case went like this.

Someone steps on a worm.

'Who stepped in the worm?'

'You stepped on whom?'

Maybe they used worm cuz it is similar to whom. Anyway, hope it helps, it sure did me.

[โ€“] MrShankles@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I always used "he/him" as a way to figure out if "whom" or "who" is correct. If "whom" is needed, it's for "him". If "who" is needed, "he" should be used.

"For him: For whom" "He did it: Who did it"

And the 'm' in "him" reminds me to use "whom"

"Who wants ice cream" shouldn't be answered with "Him wants ice cream", you would say "He wants ice cream"

"For whom is this for" : "It's for him", not "It's for he"

That's what got me to remember it forevermore

[โ€“] capestan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ryan used me as an object.

[โ€“] HowMany@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A most interesting and enlightening reply. Completely unexpected. This will bear thought. Thank you.

[โ€“] ondoyant@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ugh. you've pressed enough of my buttons to warrant a response.

Weโ€™ve come a long way from cave drawings and hieroglyphics

the idea that hieroglyphs are in some way inferior to modern writing systems in an objective way is flawed. hieroglyphs were a diverse writing system comprised of phonograms, logograms, and ideograms, and they could be used contextually to record a rich and complex language as fully featured as our own. the ancient Egyptians wrote their dreams, legends, and histories in this text for over 4000 years. the idea that our modern languages are somehow "better" than ancient languages is to misunderstand what language is.

And yet there is a whole new wave of people unable to use those languages correctly or even rudimentarily who drag civilization backwards by returning to hieroglyphics

the idea that there is a """correct""" way to use language is flawed. the field of linguistics recognizes a vast diversity of languages, dialects, sociolects, and even idiolects that vary from each other in many interesting ways. collapsing that diversity into a single "correct" way to use language is nonsense, and has historically served to exclude those whose dialect is not supported by powerful institutions. just because people aren't speaking like you are doesn't mean they're speaking wrong, or "rudimentarily".

instead of catastrophizing about how new ways of communicating might end the world, as people have done literally since we started to write down things, linguists have studied how and why emojis exist, and, unsurprisingly, its not because people are getting stupider or something like that. its because they're useful for conveying non-linguistic social information in informal written communication. without the non-verbal queues, vocal tone, and other contextual information that exists in spoken language, emojis are one of many ways to add context that can't be represented through text alone. tone indicators and emoticons serve similar roles.

And things like emojis are leading the charge.

this is cringe. small changes in the structure of our informal written communication are never going to be the big, important thing you seem to think they are. if you're this passionate about language that you think it can be ruined by funny little pictures, learn some linguistics. nobody who knows anything substantive about language shares your concerns, because they're too busy studying the interesting new cultural phenomenon and what it might mean for our understanding of human communication.

[โ€“] rosymind@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago

Only thing imma disagree on is that we've ever reached peak human

I'm almost of the opinion we've reached "peak human" and are now backsliding.

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