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submitted 11 months ago by lelgenio@lemmy.ml to c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Rust: it will take 10 months to build the app you want, but it will run super fast.

Zig: it will take 10 days to build the app you want, but it will run super fast.

You get to pick one cult. Which one is it?

[–] unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Rust: works

Zig: segmentation fault

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also no higher-order functions like map, filter, reduce etc.

Really weird design decision for a brand new language.

Comptime is pretty dope tho, I wish Rust had that instead of relying on macros so much.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So how is Zig different from C or C++, then?

[–] ledtasso@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Much nicer than C, much simpler than C++, much less cruft than both.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out, the value add of Rust isn't speed, it's safety in a low-level language. C is also just as fast, it's just that Rust guarantees safety in a wide class of potential catastrophic bugs with little to no runtime overhead, by using the design of the language and compiler.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

That's very true. My main issue though is the steep learning curve

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

I dunno man... having "no macros" as a selling point?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Rust has cute crab

Zig has scary lizard

[–] __ghost__@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Never heard of zig before, thanks

[–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Zig isn't even v1 and without any API stability guarantees.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It finished even faster when it crashes right?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

Development paradigms spearheaded by MySQL and PHP, where it was discovered that you can be really fast if you don't care about getting the right answer.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Idk I just wrote a simple cli tool in 2 hours in Rust. Complete with arg validation, actually helpful --help output, and parallelisation.

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I wanted to try zig a couple of times now but was always put off by lacking tooling and generally bad compiler errors. Its kinda hard to justify spending time on something if you see the compiler point out an error inside a standart lib zig file and there is no directon for a fix whatsoever. Im hoping it'll get better because the language seems really great