I've seen many threads suggesting products but they often don't mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn't be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You really seem to be failing to understand. And simple typos are easy to read around. I'm visually impaired so have little patience for that excuse.

It would probably help if the statement made sense to being with.

Pull or don't pull. If you pull 1 person dies. If you don't 5 die. There is no don't kill.

"5 people die" is not the same as "I killed 5 people". There is no option to kill the 5 people. They're already dead unless you murder someone to save them.

As the guy in the signal box.

There's no signal box nor is there verbiage in the trolley problem that implies you work for the railroad. You're just a guy in a position to pull the lever. There's no outside obligation to do anything at all.

Not voting leaves you with trump. Because you live in a fptp nation where 3rd parties just reduce the opposing vote.

I understand you want to crowbar the trolley problem into your metaphor about voting but I'm trying to stay on topic and discuss the problem itself.

Because the thought experiment recognises you live in a system where you have to make choices based on facts not your hopes and wishes.

No is not. It's based on personal morality, whether an individual is willing to murder someone to save 4 others. The whole thing could be boiled down to "do the ends justify the means?"

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

All amounts to the same thing.

Your just a guy eh is in a position to choose 1 or 5. And did not. So from that point. Yes you chose to allow 4 people to die. The death of those people is on your hands when you chose to do nothing.

You seem desperate not to make the choice but the responsibility for that lack of choice still lies with you.

Just as you were in a position to choose trump or Harris. So trump is as much your fault for failing to vote a viable alternative. As if you had chosen to vote him. Just because do not like either option dose not forgive you the effect of not choosing.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

All amounts to the same thing.

That's what I've been saying while you've been insisting that not choosing is somehow a third option. It's not. It ends up being effectively "didn't pull the lever".

You seem desperate not to make the choice but the responsibility for that lack of choice still lies with you.

I haven't chosen or refused to choose anything. I'm here to talk about your flawed interpretation of the trolley problem, nothing more.

Just as you were in a position to choose trump or Harris. So trump is as much your fault for failing to vote a viable alternative. As if you had chosen to vote him. Just because do not like either option dose not forgive you the effect of not choosing.

It seems you're incapable of staying on topic so I am no longer interested in having a discussion with you.