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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No offense but Trump would welcome these on highly liberal Minnesota and New York and be impartial to Michigan. These are not affecting conservative states.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The states as a whole are liberal, but the rural northern parts are fairly conservative. It's the northern parts that consume the bulk of the electricity imports

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yes. Unfortunately, it's a very blunt instrument. The rest of our tariffs have been ultra-targeted, but Doug Ford really wants to do something and this is the main tool he has provincially.

There's enough rural, conservative areas within those states that would be affected I imagine Trump will have some blowback. How much is hard to say at this point, especially given that he's still adding and removing his own tariffs all the time.

[–] beanie@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It will affect the customers, who are rural. The states are blue, because of their cities, but the cities aren’t reliant on Canadian electricity. The rural areas are, and they vote red.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you really think the Trump supporters will connect the dots?

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

JD Vance showed how much he cares about rural communities in Hillbilly Eulogy. Rural Americans are just impressionable pawns to Trump and his ilk.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on that? I'd really expect they're all on the same grid.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course they're on the same grid. Most of the US is interconnected. The Eastern interconnect connects everything East of the rockies, excluding Texas

Prices are fairly localized depending on the cost of production at the plant nearest to you. Much of Southern Minnesota is fed by the Monticello nuclear plant, for example. It's the northern areas where Canadian power generation isblargely used because it's closer. It's those places that will have try to get power from elsewhere in the upper midwest grid (if there isbany capacity), or pay the additional 25% tax

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 20 hours ago
[–] Goblino@lemmy.studio 3 points 1 day ago

Makes you wonder if this is the first phase of what he meant about "blue states completely disappearing off the map" next year.

[–] Parsizzle@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not entirely sure he would care either way to be fair, but you do raise a good point.

punish the fucking pigs anyway.